XenForo Drama
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CedricV
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It’s like a TOS / rules when registering on a forum. I have yet to find an honest person who reads them.
Mr Lucky
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I read them. Surely it’s a good idea to know what you are agreeing to in a contract.
zappaDPJ
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I was being a little facetious. You do have a point but I think it rather depends somewhat on the nature of the contract.
As a consumer I already know in fairly certain terms what I can and cannot do with the goods and services I buy regardless of any agreement which obviously has to be written in such a way that it is legally enforceable. My point being I see no reason to read something that should be fairly standard.
As a working musician and songwriter I'm only interested in my percentage and the retention periods. I leave the rest to someone I trust to advise me on whether or not to sign on the metaphorical dotted line. In that instance I agree, you really do need to know what you are agreeing to.
zappaDPJ
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Almost as crazy as the terms written into the Disney+ streaming service: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7r9djxj0do
Starbucks
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Cool. Apple doesn’t allow you to use iTunes or Apple Music to build a Nuclear Weapon: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-no-itunes-for-nuclear-weapon-2013-10
@Paul B it’s unclear for me if we can build a nuclear weapon using XenForo. Please advise.
DarkGizmo
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Aww man does that mean i'm gonna have to cease all operations on my supersonic music nuke i'm calling the "Juke"? Damn......
Arantor
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Following on from that, can we use XenForo to discuss the events of Fallout 3 wherein there is a nuclear device we can interact with?
I saw something on an Instagram reel (Idk if true or not) where the website owner forced everyone to retype the whole terms and conditions (it was displayed just had to type letter by letter over the greyed out version) in order to register.
Can you imagine?
Forsaken
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Make it a typing game, and some people would actually do it.
FTL
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What an unreasonable nightmare. I'd leave rather than go through that.
zappaDPJ
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What I find slightly ridiculous about rules, terms and even laws (and I know people disagree with this) is they really only exist to serve the rule makers not the end user.
The majority of people know what's acceptable behavour in any walk of life. Whether or not they choose to abide by that is another matter of course. Rules don't generally stop people behaving badly but they have a practical application when they do.
I manage a long standing forum which I'm not going to link of obvious reasons that offers a £50 Amazon gift token in the terms and conditions to anyone who claims it. No one ever has. I did it to demonstrate to the rest of the staff members that the T&Cs created by the previous head admin were over verbose (7-8 pages), dictatorial and would never be read by anyone. To be honest I completely forgot about it until I read your post!
CedricV
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7-8 pages?! Link please? Asking for a friend.
frm
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If they were reasonable for the forum, say made for adults only, I wouldn't mind putting a box like that where they type in something like:
"I'm 18 and legally allowed to view mature content" - but nothing longer than that, let alone the entire ToS.
It'd be a double-check for COPPA (Children's Online Privacy Protection Rule) compliance and probably the beginning of attempting to follow age verification laws (though that's going to get pretty messy with ID verification needed and may require ID.me implementation if they want to operate in those states in the future).
DragonByte Tech
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That reminds me, it's been quite a long time since I've gotten angry emails from "soccer moms" accusing me of being racist because a certain racist website (which I won't name) at one point was running one of my vBulletin products.
Edited to add: The site in question had never purchased anything from me, they were using a free "Lite" version which contained a copyright footer.
A bonafide journalist from an American national news syndicate even emailed me for clarification at one point. I think it might have been ABC News or something to that effect.
I wonder how many such emails the XF devs receive...
None. We live in a modern, understanding society. People know that just because you drive a Tesla or fly in a Boeing that the tragedies that occur from misuse of those vehicles are not the responsibility of Tesla or Boeing.
/sarcasm
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