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[Steve F]

Is it possible to also add paypal address, product based?
so that in each product we set to which paypal address the money should be paid.
just like what this does.
Thanks

We have a simple extension for this running on our site. The main issue with it though is when users add products to the cart from each "vendor". What you end up with is the vendor that was added to cart first gets all the payment. I'll have to speak with @NixFifty if he has investigated it more but If I remember correctly it would take a core change to the add-on (XPM) to accommodate the multiple transactions.

Also I think there is an open suggestion for it on XenResources.

 

[Chris D]

FWIW, I have begun to consider where XPM goes from here, and I'm actually giving some serious thought to dropping the cart concept.

There are ways to implement a system whereby you can make purchases to multiple providers. The PayPal NVP API supports this but last time I checked I wasn't clear whether it would need the Adaptive Payments API or not (which requires having to actually make a special application to PayPal).

Ultimately, for simplicity, and likely compatibility with more payment providers, it may be worth abandoning the cart concept and instead making one purchase for each product you're buying.

This will potentially mean allowing a different person to be paid for each product and different currencies for each product.

It's obviously a big change, though, and it may not be desirable for everyone which may mean actually supporting both concepts.

 

[Steve F]

Dropping the cart seems like a route worth taking, the only downside would be user experience. Would users wanting to buy multiple products at the same time have to go through the process of purchasing each product individually?

 

[Chris D]

Yeah, ultimately.

Some of you guys will know better than me the impact that will have on customers.

Since I installed it, I don't think I've had a single sale that contains more than one item per cart. Some of you guys may well have that come up more frequently.

 

[Steve F]

It doesn't happen a lot.

Thinking a bit here, why would the cart need removed? If a user adds another product to the cart after having one in there why not just check the vendor being added, if it doesn't match what is already in the cart have an error message stating products from other vendors would need to be purchased separately?

 

[Chris D]

That should be workable. I haven't given it a load of thought yet, but that seems like a reasonable compromise.

 

[HWS]

I don't see any good in expanding XPM into a multi seller shopping mall. The cart concept is a concept the user knows and easy to handle.

I would like the ability to sell options to already existing licenses and some kind of tax management to be added to XPM soon.

 

[Chris D]

No, certainly you may not see any good in that, but others do. I don't really want this to be, hey, let all your users sell whatever they want. We know there's other add-ons around or in development that will help that.

But there's definitely use cases where there could legitimately be multiple sellers. @Steve F and @Russ are a perfect example of this. Actually, the AVForums add-ons, the money for those goes to a separate PayPal account to my own so that's also a valid use case for me.

I think Steve's idea whereby the cart concept sticks around, but adding items from multiple sellers gives an error or you have to complete the cart with multiple payments could work. That way it only affects you if you do want to have multiple sellers.

 

[Daniel Hood]

Yeah, ultimately.

Some of you guys will know better than me the impact that will have on customers.

Since I installed it, I don't think I've had a single sale that contains more than one item per cart. Some of you guys may well have that come up more frequently.

I've noticed that a lot of my orders contain one item even when people do back to back transactions. Sometimes it seems like people think they have to buy one thing at a time.

 

[Russ]

If possible I'd like to see the cart stay but allow the payments to potentially be split on the back-end side of things via PayPal?

User adds multiple products to the cart, when they check out it does a single payment and PayPal splits the payments appropriately. I thought PayPal had something like this.

As for other ideas... we're pretty happy with it over all, I think all of my suggestions are out there, I'll recap my main priorities:

• Ability to purchase extras AFTER initial purchase
• Stats would be nice
• Better handling of fraud/chargebacks, having a page to see which users have done a chargeback or something.
  
• URL License search, check if a license is actually attached, of course searching: pixelexit would find http:// or https:// ect

Aside from those little minor quirks this is by far the best add-on we've ever spent money on. As always we appreciate the prompt support Chris

 

[Chris D]

If possible I'd like to see the cart stay but allow the payments to potentially be split on the back-end side of things via PayPal?

User adds multiple products to the cart, when they check out it does a single payment and PayPal splits the payments appropriately. I thought PayPal had something like this.

It does. I sort of addressed this. I will explore it, but depending on the exact circumstances it may be that it is more complex than it's worth.

• Ability to purchase extras AFTER initial purchase

• Stats would be nice

• Better handling of fraud/chargebacks, having a page to see which users have done a chargeback or something.

• URL License search, check if a license is actually attached, of course searching: pixelexit would find http:// or https:// ect

Coincidentally, I need all these things too

I would like the ability to sell options to already existing licenses and some kind of tax management

And these, by the way

And I think some or most of you need categories.

Aside from those little minor quirks this is by far the best add-on we've ever spent money on. As always we appreciate the prompt support Chris

Thanks Russ

 

[Dadparvar]

just a new pre-sales question.
Is it possible with this add-on to sell products from other sites than paypal (like with Sellfy) and make a license after purchase?
In some cases it will be needed to sell something via Sellfy, and we want to make license creation automatic with this add-on.

 

[Daniel Hood]

Yes, with user group permission you have the option to "Convert Cart" the cart which basically forces the licenses to be assigned without payment. So you could accept cash or some other payment method and manually make the license after.

 

[Chris D]

What Daniel says is correct, but I note that you mentioned "automatic" in your post.

Theoretically, if you have a way to receive notification from Sellfy about new sales, or query their API for new sales, then it wouldn't really require much code to create those licenses.

 

[Dadparvar]

you mentioned "automatic" in your post

That's right.

Theoretically, if you have a way to receive notification from Sellfy about new sales, or query their API for new sales, then it wouldn't really require much code to create those licenses

In each purchase there is notification.
But I didn't check if there is any api or not.
I'll check and say the result.

 

[Daniel Hood]

I missed where you said automatic, my mistake. Like Chris said, it'd take custom development but if you don't mind doing it manually then my method will work fine for you though your customers will obviously experience some delay (since they have to wait for you to add the license).

 

[Dadparvar]

Purchased.
Just a simple question
Isn't it possible to define categories? or I couldn't find it?

 

[Chris D]

It's not currently possible to define categories, but it has been suggested for the future.

 

[Dadparvar]

Thanks.

Imagine I uploaded wrong file and submitted the product.
Now I click on Edit product and try to remove its file and upload new file. But I can't remove it.
And when I add new version, then customers will be able to download it from list of versions.
How to replace the file in versions?

 

[Chris D]

Edit the version.

Click the "pencil/edit" icon on the Version History tab next to the version you wish to change.