Just Upgraded from 4.2 Beta 4 to 4.2 Beta 5a I video taped it, entire process took only 3 minutes !
I don't think they are called IPB anymore , Its IPS "Invision Power Services" i figure its because they have first party addons making them more than just "Boards"
If you are referring to updates, Unless your running the developers build you are not notified of beta updates. you have to manually go to admincp/applications and click check for updatesUntil the moment you figure they are also in the forum and you can't turn them off...*oops*.
No matter whether what mode you are in... you (as an admin) WILL get a notice on your forum when signing in if there are updates available for the normal release. And if the upgrade is one that they deem critical, it will be a notice that you cannot dismiss. Anyone that basically has ACP access will also get the same warning on their visits to the forum. There was a lengthy discussion (and associated griping) about this but it's one of IPS's way of making sure that you know of the update (as most IPS admins are apparently lazy and don't check manually) and them guaranteeing an income stream since you have to have active support to perform any upgrade.If you are referring to updates, Unless your running the developers build you are not notified of beta updates. you have to manually go to admincp/applications and click check for updates
I have 2 IPS boards one is running in Dev Mode and it had a nice message telling me an upgrade was available ... i clicked upgrade on my iPhone and 3 minutes later it was running on the new version, it was so smooth and easy that i video'd the upgrade on my other board
I can remember taking a days vacation from work to update my vb3 board ... and now IPS has made it to where i can update on my phone in 3 mins , amazing!
Still not the smartest move relying on the automated. I personally perform a manual backup of both DB and files prior to the upgrade of ANY of my scripts.I do automated back ups server side
You are specifically referring to the BETA version. I am talking about the official version. It WILL notify you that there are updates out for it no matter what "special files" you upload.Only one of my sites had the notice, you have to physically upload special files if you want to be notified of new releases.
Are you saying they won't issue the security update for free? If not, that sounds like pretty poor form, even if you're out of the upgrade cycle. It's in everyones best interest to make sure all installs are fully patched up.when it's a security update there is a bright red banner displayed at the top of the forum that is not capable of being dismissed and will stay there until you upgrade. If you don't have an active license (because you are comfortable with where your site is currently) you will STILL get that banner.
Exactly... even if it is a "security update" you must have an active license to obtain it. If your license is NOT active - no updates for you, even if they are critical.Are you saying they won't issue the security update for free? If not, that sounds like pretty poor form, even if you're out of the upgrade cycle. It's in everyones best interest to make sure all installs are fully patched up.
If they are offering it for free, then what's the big deal with the notice? Even if you're happy with your install, you should still be applying the update if it's just a security patch.
Then you have a pretty much base install without many modifications/add-ons/styles running most likely. I can think of 3 different times an upgrade caused issues (and frequently was due to an add-on and changes that IPs made to the standard functioning of their script) and the only way to get the site back up and running quickly was to restore from the backups I had created. Not to mention to often you have your upgrade and then a day or to later an important upgrade to the upgrade (the 4.1.x.Y updates that come out) because either their initial upgrade broke something or introduced other issues.Moved servers 5 times , updated all along the way
Oh, there were several things removed from IPB 3.x in the IPS 4.x line.... but as for this type of stuff, I blame it on the lack of granularity in the user groups controls. I frequently find that IPS's attitude is to make it simple as they don't want to "confuse" to many of the admins that get overwhelmed by having to many options in the ACP.And IPB4 has lot of things missing out of IPB3 which were quite logical, e.g. you cannot delete pictures out of your album, unless you enable users to delete all their content (which idiot has such ideas...nobody wants their users to delete their posts, but letting them delete images is common sense...
Actually with the 4.2 line they are going to give a strong run to anything that is out there now... including XF 2.0 when it comes out since it's basically a refactor of 1.X with a few "tweaks".The only way for them to ever become market leader is for all competition to die.
Unless they can DRASTICALLY improve their English speaking support (not necessarily from them but on the support forum) they are going to have some severe issues making inroads into a large use base. In fact, I'm seriously looking at pulling my Linux site off of WBB and switching it to IPS 4.2 when it is officially released.I'm confident that in the future Woltlab will surpass IPB
Until they get a MUCH improved search engine that will search ALL content, it's still going to be sorely lacking. They've known of the issue since they removed Sphinx and finally admitted to it and are "hoping" to have some type of resolution in the 4.3 line. Hopefully it won't be another paid service like they have a tendency towards - especially considering they stripped something that was working just fine because they (at the time) thought the standard MySQL search would be adequate.I love xf too don't get me wrong but we have to look at the future and right now IPS 4.2 is our greatest ally in the battle of social media
https://invisioncommunity.com/news/product-updates/invision-community-43-r1055Setting so when someone is typing in an editor, other members will see a "Member X is typing..." status in the editor view.
It would be a shorter list to list the things I don't care about from 4.3 (and 4.2). IPS has really been doing some awesome things and hopefully the XF devs are paying attention and want to implement some of it, preferably starting with 2.1What do you all think? Which features on this list do you want to see in XF?