Wordpress Drama

A few things to remember:

1) WPE is not the only player in this drama with private equity backers, Automattic has those too (and since their last round of investment they will be wanting to see signs of revenue growth, which Automattic doesn’t exactly have)
2) WPE’s use of trademarks was much the same over the last decade including the years when Automattic had invested in WPE
3) There have been leaked documents going back to January this year demonstrating Automattic’s internal counsel talking about monetising the trademarks as an asset; the implication is that WPE is not an outlier, but merely the biggest target and that everyone else will get in line afterwards
4) All of the other big players in this market have been watching very carefully, they have all been following the same playbook as WPE had with respect to the WP trademarks, and they’ve all subtly amended the wording on their sites in much the same way.
5) Automattic internal documents also previously referred to GoDaddy as “an existential threat” suggesting they were very careful about who they picked as their first legal target, suspecting WPE would just roll over (after all, it’s “only” 8% of revenue, “they can afford it” style thinking, but that’s actually about 60% of their total profit because WP hosting isn’t nearly as lucrative as you’d think). Yes, they made $400 million revenue but that’s certainly not $400 million profit (though Matt definitely wants you to think that’s what happened)
 
They were contributing financially - sponsoring a number of the conferences (WordCamps) going on.

The only issue is that Matt, after all these years, thinks they’re not paying him enough to be a direct competitor of his, while being a direct competitor of his.

If the money could be assured of going to WP development it would be easier to make that argument, but the money would go to Automattic and improves the profits of Automattic’s hosting companies.
 
big mistake.

I think WPE should contribute financially. Open Source software benefits from financial contributions.
The contributions that Matt wanted was to Automattic not to Wordpress directly. Because Wordpress is a non-profit, primarily for education, there are a lot of restrictions in how income can be utilized, and it is also why Automattic handles the trademark, as they can profit off of licensing.

Again, contributions to open source are not always financial, and generally they are not. In most cases, providing contributions in code or in support outside of financial is also deemed as important as writing a check.
 
Wow Matt's reply to a WordPress mirror project Aspirepress
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Basically he’s taking pot-shots at ForkWP and AspirePress in deeply unprofessional ways, when AP in particular would do him favours in the long run. (Matt is complaining how expensive it is to run Wordpress.org, but AP explicitly intends to relieve him of some of that burden, if his ego would allow it)
 
Came across some screenshots and discussion in another tweet threads. Nuts he's still posting this kind of stuff, and from the official Wordpress account to boot.

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I think I should settle this.

Automattic and WPE should both pay 2% of gross sales - in financial contributions.

Matt isn't allowed to decide where the money goes.
 
The plot thickens: turns out BlackRock valued down Automattic earlier this year and Automattic isn't making significant profit. This has the hallmarks, then, a CEO desperate to up the income to meet targets before he gets forcibly ousted...
 
The fact that AspirePress would reduce Matt’s costs is lost on Matt.

This isn't 100% confirmed, however Matt allegedly profits off of Wordpress.org recommended hosts by who contributes the most to Wordpress; considering that he only considers financial support recognizable contributions at this point 🙄.

The plot thickens: turns out BlackRock valued down Automattic earlier this year and Automattic isn't making significant profit. This has the hallmarks, then, a CEO desperate to up the income to meet targets before he gets forcibly ousted...

I do not believe they can oust him, as it is a privately held company and the shares are non-voting, but pulling their investment would devastate Automattic for sure.
 
but pulling their investment would devastate Automattic for sure.
I mean the writing was on the wall. For years (if not decades?) Jetpack came with a social media sharer to Twitter, Facebook and a few others. For free. Then they limited its use to i dunno 30 per month, which is actually only 10 if you had Twitter, a Facebook and a Linkedin. The premium plan costs 100 Dollars a year if memory serves.

Also for decades, there was a statistics tool in jetpack. For free. It is like, yknow, "good enough". Suddenly, they decided it's only free if you don't use your site commercially. What is or isn't commercial is up to Automattic ofc. And well those stats are billed by number of visitors. And they are eeeeexxxxpnensive. Holy cow.

I mean I do get it that services cost money. But I mean 16 Dollars per month for 100k visitors a month?

Yeah anyway, rant over.
 
I think I should settle this.

Automattic and WPE should both pay 2% of gross sales - in financial contributions.

Matt isn't allowed to decide where the money goes.
Then Wordpress would no longer be open source (FOSS standing for free open-source software), and would be fair source, where there are often mandatory contributions or licenses for companies earning over a certain amount.

Also, Wordpress is a non-profit, which places very strict limitations on how they can earn income and what that income can be used for. The 'contribution' that WPE is supposed to pay is meant to go to Automattic, as they are the the one sub-licensing the trademark.

This is 100% grift, and nothing to do with actual open source. Pretty much every open-source project that has weighed in on this issue has been very against what Matt is doing, as have many people (outside of people remaining at Automattic) who contribute to Wordpress Core, or plugins.
 
This isn't 100% confirmed
If AspirePress is running mirrors of w.org and people are using those mirrors, that’s less load on w.org, and therefore it would cost less to run.

I do not believe they can oust him
Who knows what was in the agreement he signed with them for their investment? It’s not unheard of for such investment agreements to come with clauses allowing some eviction (or penalties) if targets aren’t met. And it sounds like those targets aren’t being met.

The 'contribution' that WPE is supposed to pay is meant to go to Automattic, as they are the the one sub-licensing the trademark
That in itself is a red flag, because that would imply the WP trademarks have value, and there isn’t anything in the filings of the 503c to indicate they hold such assets.

I’m just waiting for someone to throw the tactical nuke into the mix to petition for cancellation of the trademarks because once granted you actually have to defend them, and Automattic does not have a good history of that.
 
Ah so this is why Matt has beef with Silver Lake owned WPEngine, Matt was kicked out of WPEngine investment by Silver Lake
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And Matt seems fine with dragging this drama out for years if he has to via the courts.

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If AspirePress is running mirrors of w.org and people are using those mirrors, that’s less load on w.org, and therefore it would cost less to run.

Matt making money off of Wordpress recommended hosts is what is not confirmed, not anything about AspirePress.

Who knows what was in the agreement he signed with them for their investment? It’s not unheard of for such investment agreements to come with clauses allowing some eviction (or penalties) if targets aren’t met. And it sounds like those targets aren’t being met.

That could be, but it would have been a stupid thing for him to sign, especially given how much of an egomaniac he is.

That in itself is a red flag, because that would imply the WP trademarks have value, and there isn’t anything in the filings of the 503c to indicate they hold such assets.

I’m just waiting for someone to throw the tactical nuke into the mix to petition for cancellation of the trademarks because once granted you actually have to defend them, and Automattic does not have a good history of that.

He has already implied that WP trademark has value, and that is one of the points in the WPEngine lawsuit, that they have purposely underreported assets on filings to the IRS. The fact that prior to the WPEngine lawsuit they were already internally discussing ways to weaponize the trademark shows that they know it has value, and that they can use it to get contributions.

Ah so this is why Matt has beef with Silver Lake owned WPEngine, Matt was kicked out of WPEngine investment by Silver Lake
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And Matt seems fine with dragging this drama out for years if he has to via the courts.

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Was he actually kicked out? I'm pretty sure that this is the first time that he has worded it that way specifically. I do not know if this more details are coming forward, or if Matt is revising things to fit his narrative. He has definitely had personal beef with one specific person who is part of Silver Lake, so it could very well be true.

He has more to lose in a long lawsuit than WPEngine; WPEngine is owned by Silver Lake, while he has investors who are probably not happy with his results. He has already lost employees, supporters and contributors and if this were to continue on for years due to him being petty it would not end well for him.

He once spent $100k on a domain after having beef with the other person who wanted it, so this is entirely true to form.

But but but he totally had other reasons for buying it!... He just hasn't used it for any reason other than being a petty child yet.
 
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