Now it makes sense to me when a new XF update comes out and its a security improvement people update. I tend to wait a short time to make sure its a clean update. But the point of this post is why do some not update and still run versions like 1.0.2 an alike. Perhaps its Mysql versions ?? I read periodically members here posting support on some very old versions, however being they can posts; this means their are paid up to that point for support? I just wondered why some update and some don't ?