TNCclubman
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whats the difference between vps and dedicated server, both managed?
Not all VPS' are managed, in fact many aren't.whats the difference between vps and dedicated server, both managed?
whats the difference between vps and dedicated server, both managed?
. A VPS is still 'shared hosting', you're at the mercy of every other user on it.
Yes, it is.That's not true.
Yes, it is.
Just because you can't SEE the 'shared' users doesn't mean a VPS isn't 'shared hosting'.
You're still at the wim of every user on the VPS.
http://www.xen.org/So what if you run your own kernel. You're still subject to other users overloading the HARDWARE!
how am I at the mercy of any other user ? I run my own Kernel
Riiiiiiight, misinformation.and please don't shout , and don't miss inform people.
To confirm, they get their own share, or the resource is shared, depending on the virtualising platform.Riiiiiiight, misinformation.
So, according to your own misinformation:
A VPS user gets their own hard drive (sorry, that's a lie)
A VPS user gets their own CPU (again, a lie)
A VPS user gets their own memory limits (that's true).
ALL it takes to kill off a VPS is a bad sector, which is very easily done.
Overloading the CPU? Oh, absolutely. What happens when said CPU is overloaded? Why EVERYONE on the VPS is slow
Who's the one spreading misinformation? certainly not me.
Get your facts straight, then post. I've been playing this game for 10+ years now, I know more than a little bit about VPS', dedicated, and shared servers
To confirm, they get their own share, or the resource is shared, depending on the virtualising platform.
E.g, look at OpenVZ and Xen.
Riiiiiiight, misinformation.
Get your facts straight, then post. I've been playing this game for 10+ years now, I know more than a little bit about VPS', dedicated, and shared servers
ActuallyRiiiiiiight, misinformation.
So, according to your own misinformation:
A VPS user gets their own hard drive (sorry, that's a lie)
A VPS user gets their own CPU (again, a lie)
A VPS user gets their own memory limits (that's true).
ALL it takes to kill off a VPS is a bad sector, which is very easily done.
Overloading the CPU? Oh, absolutely. What happens when said CPU is overloaded? Why EVERYONE on the VPS is slow
Yeah, ok, right. You go on spreading your misinformation, such as:I don't think you do
Wrong. A VPS is just a server put into containers, as explained above. Those containers SHARE RESOURCES. This includes hard drives, and no, it's not ALWAYS clustered. in fact, in most cases, not so much.1. it's a file spread across a cluster of hard drives
again, incorrect. jIn some cases, y es, this might be true, but overall, as a whole there is no cpu clock assigned. Again, I've been through this a number of years, and have seen the best, and the worst. On average, the answer to this is NO, this is not true.2. each VPS gets an assigned CPU clock 1Ghz / 2 Ghz etc ...
nowhere did I say any different.3. each VPS gets assigned an amount of RAM
and that of course proves everything right there. If you don't know what a "bad sector" is then you have no place making a comment. Just because you want to pretend that VPS is not shared hosting doesn't mean it's not, it means that you're out for pretending that it's not.4. huh ?
I already said XEN. no sharing anything. you get your slice of the hardware that no other slice can talk to.
Think of XEN as a BIOS that let each OS communicate with the hardware. there is no container bringing any container down. If a container dies, only that particular instance dies.
same is true for the cloud.
I think twhiting9275 has a problem with "sharing" CPU or hard drive ...etc... To save myself frustration and typing please read and inform yourself with the link I have provided
OpenVZ is different to Xen. They have a different method of virtualisation. Whilst containers may not be able to talk to each other, each platform has a different way of assigning resources, such that in OpenVZ, I believe that the resources are shared, and that overselling is possible, this is the same with Xen.
If you're saying that I am being assigned a specific share of hardware, then please do explain why I've got 8 cores to myself, at full GHz clock, whilst someone else on the server reports the same thing.
We're definately using Xen. What I'm trying to point out is that resource allocation is not always absolute, whilst some resources are allocated definately, others, such as CPU, is shared, depending on configuration. You can set each container to have 100% share of the CPU. You can still very easily oversell with Xen.OpenVZ is different ... I have specifically said that, so we're not talking about OpenVZ here and that's why they are cheap ... because they squeeze the hell out of the server ... nothing stopping them
if you have 8 cores and someone else is reporting the same thing then he must have the same share as you or you guys aren't using XEN.
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