DRE
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I was doing some tests and noticed that sites with http:// first time to byte loads faster than sites with http://www.
Edit: Darn. Can't add poll.
Edit: Darn. Can't add poll.
What's Faster? http://www or http://
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jmurrayhead
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I dunno...I tend to type: nameofsite + CTRL + Enter which automatically adds the www. and .com.
DBA
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Are you typing in http://domain.com and it's redirecting to http://www.domain.com? That will take longer as it has to redirect.
Rigel Kentaurus
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Well, just take a look at the Http headers
When you do www, you send an http request to the server that goes something like
Code:
GET /
Host: www.8thos.com
User-Agent: ...And when you just use the plain domain ..
Code:
GET /
Host: 8thos.com
User-Agent: ...This means that without the www you are saving the incredible amount of 3 bytes in header requests. That might speed your site for like a half millisecond !
DRE
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Seriously wtf... I'm getting rid of the www. http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130629_N6_XMM/1/details/
*looks for htaccess redirect from http://www. to http://
*looks for htaccess redirect from http://www. to http://
Divvens
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Jason
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xenforo.com doesn't use www
I have my site as http:// since our launch!
He has a point, though.
It makes using some third-party redundant hosting solutions more difficult, since they use a CNAME to point to their services. There's also other implications, such as cookies. In general, naked domains are a bad idea when used in a high availability environment, or when you're running a large number of services across several sub-domains. For your average forum, or those running their own server farms, it's not much of an issue.
Divvens
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For the cookies issue we use .htaccess to redirect all users to http:// only link without the www.
Well our forum isn't that big yet, when we reach that stage I guess we'll figure a way out. But I haven't read much about that being an issue so let's see!
x3sphere
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It's not a big deal to switch over to www. if you need to in the future. I just see little advantage going non-www. unless it was a link-shortening service or something. The latency added from any redirect is negligible. I think OP got a poor result because his server seems to be hosted in Germany and was testing on webpagetest.org from a US location.
I just tried on one of my domains and still got a B on first-byte even with the redirect: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130630_1R_8JK/1/details/
I just tried on one of my domains and still got a B on first-byte even with the redirect: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130630_1R_8JK/1/details/
DRE
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I hope this doesn't effect my better blogs. :think:
Oh well guess I'll find out.
*removes
*replaces with
Oh well guess I'll find out.
*removes
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^8thos\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.8thos.com/$1 [R=301,L]*replaces with
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^8thos\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://8thos.com/$1 [R=301,L]
dutchbb
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I never understood the fetish with http://
Www is obviously much easier for people to type/remember regardless of which of the two makes more sense technically. These days it's a non issue as browsers do not require typing either and some hide the http:// part.
I see x3sphere talking about it even making more sense technically to go with www so to me that is case closed.
Www is obviously much easier for people to type/remember regardless of which of the two makes more sense technically. These days it's a non issue as browsers do not require typing either and some hide the http:// part.
I see x3sphere talking about it even making more sense technically to go with www so to me that is case closed.
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DRE
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I want to ditch the www. and go straight to 8thos.com so I tried:
Didn't work so I tried number 2: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/keep-logging-out-of-xf-with-chrome.22968/#post-286837
Didn't work so I tried http://xenforo.com/community/threads/remove-www-from-urls.49207/#post-527144
Didn't work. @MattW is this not working because it has something to do with nginx? Even though I'm not using nginx for .htaccess and all...
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^8thos\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.8thos.com/$1 [R=301,L]Didn't work so I tried number 2: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/keep-logging-out-of-xf-with-chrome.22968/#post-286837
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^8thos\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.8thos.com/$1 [R=301,L]Didn't work so I tried http://xenforo.com/community/threads/remove-www-from-urls.49207/#post-527144
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.yourdomain.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://yourdomain.com/$1 [L,R=301]Didn't work. @MattW is this not working because it has something to do with nginx? Even though I'm not using nginx for .htaccess and all...
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