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What will you do if Internet Brands close XenForo with an injunction?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Stuart Wright, Oct 16, 2010.

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  1. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?363884-Internet-Brands-claims-against-Xenforo
    If Bob Brisco intends to pursue the foolhardy legal action against xenForo and blocks sales and/or developement and/or the public viewing of xenForo.com with an injunction, what will you do?
    I'll send an email to every shareholder of Internet Brands I can find informing them of the foolishness of the action by Bob Brisco. How he has so chronically mismanaged the development of vB4 and how I'll do everything in my power to ensure that fellow vBulletin license holders are aware of how awful vBulletin is and how it should be avoided in favour of other forum solutions.
    What would you do? Does anyone have the contact details of any of the shareholders? Perhaps we should start a list?
     
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  2. Floris

    Floris Guest

    Who cares..
     
  3. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 Active Member

    Who cares? I think the people who actually might consider buying the forum would care. It is a valid question.
    From the potential purchaser's perspective, what happens if they get slapped with this, and the courts side in IB's favor. Admittedly, looking at the functionality, not too much of a chance of that, but still, it IS within the realm of possibility
     
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  4. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    There is no case; it would be thrown out in CA if that was where the case was presented, all that would be needed is a independent contractor to review code.
     
  5. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    This is what put me off buying a license at first but then I thought screw it. I bought a (much more expensive) VB4 Suite license which has sat unused for a year thanks to their awful CMS implementation so would rather support the guys here even if the worst happens.
     
  6. Mazinger

    Mazinger Member

    Unfortunately, I'll have to stick with vB for along time I think.
     
  7. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    The case itself has been discussed in depth here:
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/internet-brands-claims-against-xenforo.4727/

    Several other threads discussing related aspects were closed as the topic itself had become exhaustted:
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/a-lawyers-perspective.6229/
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/what-happens-to-our-sites-if-ib-wins-the-lawsuit.6351/

    There's also a thread asking how customers will be affected:
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/how-will-the-lawsuit-affect-customers.5016/

    That being the case, can we stick to the thread subject which is what will you do?
    Please no more discussion or speculation related to the case.

    A defense fund has been started so that's something that people can contribute to if they wish to give XenForo a fighting chance against IB's very deep pockets.
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/xf-legal-donation-fund-david-vs-goliath.5352/
     
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  8. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

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  9. Paul M

    Paul M Well-Known Member

    "If Bob Brisco intends to pursue the foolhardy legal action against xenForo and blocks sales and/or developement and/or the public viewing of xenForo.com with an injunction, what will you do?"

    Id be somewhat suprised if that ever happened.
     
  10. AmericanForum.com

    AmericanForum.com Well-Known Member

    Nobody can ignore this legal action in my humble opinion. Its a risk factor that is unfortunately added to the price of XF.
     
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  11. mlx

    mlx Well-Known Member

    IANAL but I seriously doubt something like that will happen.
     
  12. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    With all of the suits coming against IB lately? I doubt it.
     
  13. DSF

    DSF Well-Known Member

    Your discussion of nonsense.
    It is very easy for me and you as customer.

    I have a product with a company called xenforo Ltd. bought and paid for.
    This is a normal business relationship.
    Another company in U.S. with the name IB I know, but I have no business relationship.

    ONLY xenforo can tell me this product is no longer used.
    Ok, then xF MUST pay back the money.
    As long as they do not do this, can I use the product.

    Any relationship between third parties, in this case, xF and IB, is for me completely irrevalant.

    It's that simple. ;)
     
  14. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 Active Member

    Not so. The legal system may tell you "you can't use that product". They have every authority to do so.

    Again, not so. You've used their product, yes? Then you aren't owed any money back. Since you've used said software, you're not entitled to anything back, from a legal perspective.

    Until you get slapped with a cease and decist order if IB wins any lawsuit.

    From a legal standpoint, it really isn't simple. The courts can say you can't use the software, they can say that it's in violation of legal agreements, they can say a lot of stuff. Of course, the likelihood of them DOING this is something else, but they have been known to do worse things.
     
  15. dieketzer

    dieketzer Well-Known Member

    if ib were to successfully close XenForo with an injunction i would continue to run xenforo regardless.
    yeah, im like that.
     
  16. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    haha so am I.
     
  17. DSF

    DSF Well-Known Member

    Which court? ;) ... for me outside UK and USA? Sorry ... better read international Commercial Law
     
  18. Lucas

    Lucas Well-Known Member

    How so? I don't even live in the US, how will they force me to do anything. Pffft, they can f*** off. :)
     
  19. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Back on topic please: What will you do if Internet Brands close XenForo with an injunction?

    The case has been discussed to death elsewhere and there is little point in rehashing it all again here.
     
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  20. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 Active Member

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    Removed, no need to get into an argument over legalities
     
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