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What shold be in the forum software and what should be an add on?

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by jonsidneyb, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    As I look around I can see that many people want different things in the software.

    There are some things that are very popular with some people and not that popular with others. I can see some features that it looks like half the people would want while others couldn't care less about.

    I think it is fair to say that what many of us want is all over the map.

    Not being a coder I don't know how hard all of this is.

    I do think there are features that absolutely make sense to be built into the software itself. I am guessing there are some features it possibly does not matter if it is built in or is a plug in. Maybe somethings should only be a plug in. Some people might not ever have some features that they would never use on their server.

    let me if what I suggest is completely off base as I am not a coder.

    Here is how the download area might be someday.

    ( ) xenForo forum software {all the things that should be in the basic forum software itself}

    Items that licensed owners of xenForo can download with the software or come back and get at a later date.

    ( ) Doohicky
    ( ) Thingamajig
    ( ) What not

    Items that licensed owners can purchase with xenForo software or can be purchased by licensed owners at a later date.

    ( ) Ewok $29.95
    ( ) Tarter Sauce $129.95
    ( ) Blender $49.95

    I am wondering if this approach can let us have more streamlined boards by only having what we need loaded and if we change our minds we can come back and get it?

    It also might take off some of the pressure on some of the development of the basic software.

    I don't know.
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  2. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    Oh no...I can't edit my typo in the title. :D
  3. 0ptima

    0ptima Well-Known Member

    I like this idea. :)
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  4. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    I like that you like this idea :)
  5. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

    I am not sure it could be handled any other way. They stated that the forum would come first, and other things later. Ala cart (sp?) would be simply decided by whatever business model they choose.

    Although the tarter sauce does look a bit pricey :p
  6. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    I was thinking some things in later releases might be added to the forum itself that I would prefer to be in a plug in. :)
  7. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

    Possibly, or version 2 might have more features than version 1.

    It will affect tech support if there are multiple things to download/install compared to simply disabling things not of interest, at least I would think that would be the case.
  8. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    Perhaps that is true.
  9. Vilandra

    Vilandra Active Member

    It would be ideal to be able to pick and choose what's installed, but as you said there may be issues with that from a tech perspective.

    I guess it depends on what the developers are going for - is it meant to be forum software, or as someone said in another thread (I apologize for not remembering who) is it a user management system with the different features as addons (blog, CMS, forum). I think if it's forum software, that's what you should get as the main chunk and then everything else an addon of some type.

  10. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

    I really like the ipb business model for their addons and forum. They put some thought into that.
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  11. James

    James Well-Known Member

    Put it this way: What suits the majority should be included by default (standard functions expected in all forums) and things that suit the minority or things that would be easy to make as an add-on (such as a dislike feature) should be addons.
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  12. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    *Thread moved to discussions forum*
  13. Jeremy

    Jeremy XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Personally, I find some things more suited for an add-on. I'll make the point from another thread (in reply to Onimua): Podcasting capabilities being default is a waste of time, I've never seen a site use that. If it won't be widely used, it should be an add-on. Official or not, doesn't matter to me. Keep popular features there in default, rest is add-ons. That's how I feel it should be.
  14. Vilandra

    Vilandra Active Member

    I never figured out how it was different from just posting a thread with the link to your podcast lol - but then again, I didn't really care enough to spend much time on it lol
  15. Brandon_R

    Brandon_R Guest

    I think most of the stuff like template preferences and design things (like that image for new post request that occured a while back) can be modded by the user themselves and the developers should only be concerned with the bare minimum. Things like that can end up pleasing X and not Y. All the devs need to do is see if it makes sense.

    That is one of the biggest mistakes vBulletin made and i don't want to see xF make the same mistake.

    Stay away from the simple template design requests and the please add option X but put a button so those that don't want it can turn it off in the admincp requests and this will be a nice streamlined product.
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  16. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    I agree, the only excess clutter I want it to have is the excess clutter I feel I need. I have many of the features are plug in so some can be discarded easily.

    I think it is the easiest way to please the most people, by being modular. I hope this suggestion happens.
  17. jonsidneyb

    jonsidneyb Well-Known Member

    It's really good tarter sauce. The horseradish that was put in it is of the absolute best quality.
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