What Is You Experience With TinyMCE [XenForo's Editor]?

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Robbo is asking WHICH EDITOR DO YOU WANT in Xenforo ?
 
I remember that very old versions of IPB (1.x) and vb (2.x) has a custom post editor coded from scratch that works well. Why now every commercial forum software uses third part post editor?
 
Making a full on post editor is firstly reinventing the rule and a large task. There is a LOT of code to do it and even more testing to get it right. Then there is cross browser issues... I can't imagine making one myself, sounds like a nightmare.
 
Robbo said:
Making a full on post editor is firstly reinventing the rule and a large task. There is a LOT of code to do it and even more testing to get it right. Then there is cross browser issues... I can't imagine making one myself, sounds like a nightmare.
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True, but looking back it seem there were less ongoing issues than there are now using these free 3rd party editors. What's worse, the devs are left having to wait for TinyMCE to fix the issues at times, meaning they are at the mercy of them.
 
I think the issue here is that there is no 3rd party editor that does everything well enough. I see it as all the open source editors out there as being stuck in the past. There has been no innovation on their parts. On that note, I see posting on forums/blogs as needing some innovation too. It is the same as it has been for a long time and doesn't work that well. For example. When adding an image why do we have to attach it first? Why can't we click on the image button and have a input for a url or a button to upload (which would then do the attachment part). Why not have URLs turned into links while editing? How about a right click context menu? All these things can make posting a lot better if done correctly.
Quoting a message puts in [q uote]. Basic users don't want to see that, just add HTML for how it looks in the end... images resized and moved? What the hell is with having to press a button to indent and making the indent a per line thing... just make tab actually add tabs.
I don't know why developers or end users are satisfied with this old way of doing things. I hope this is something else XenForo decides to innovate on.
 
I completely agree, it could be a major innovation point although it would be a lot of work. Robbo's suggestions make real sense to me and what my users would probably like.
 
Mike said:
If you have problems with TinyMCE, it should probably be related to formatting-type issues. :)
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Agreed. One of my biggest complaints was that the default is to paste styled text into the editor, not plain text. Even the TinyMCE developers have absolutely no clue as to how this can be done--I've been there, asked, no real answers other than guesses that didn't work. I am not going to get tens of thousands of users to follow some ridiculous instructions because TinyMCE can't get their act together and tell us how to disable this "feature." I gave up several months ago.
 
You can switch to plain editor mode, paste text, then switch back to WYSIWYG again. That's the one annoying thing about WYSIWYG though, that when pasting text from other sites it tends to include all HTML formatting in most cases. Really can understand why I used to see many vBulletin 3 owners disable WYSIWYG mode altogether, sticking with forcing members to use Plain Text editor only to stop it from happening by accident.

Your members don't take that into consideration when posting on your forum using WYSIWYG editor, why should they? Most won't bother wasting their time switching between the two different modes when posting copied text from another site, or don't even know the difference between the two.

When I ran vBulletin 3, ended up doing the same thing in the end also. Disabling WYSIWYG mode for using completely.
 
Brogan said:
This seems like a good place to post this thread, which explains how to fully style the editor: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/styling-the-wysiwyg-tinymce-editor.24523/
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Broken link.


Editor reduction to plain form seems to me poor idea. I prefer programmers to reduce number of errors in its code.

Will you please answer me, Brogan, whether we'll find improvements I mentioned in this thread in new version?
(http://xenforo.com/community/thread...ymce-xenforos-editor.22945/page-6#post-298385
http://xenforo.com/community/thread...ymce-xenforos-editor.22945/page-6#post-298396 ).

I urge to resolve the problems I have mentioned. Of all the modules xenforo editor windows is one of the most important for the user!
 
Brogan said:
As I always say every time I am asked, I am unable to give out information on new versions.
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Put that in your sig imo. Should put some general rules in it, your sig would be one of the most viewed thing on this site.
 
The SMF one is the only one I have no issues with because it has a middle ground. It can do it without formatting but keeping all the buttons. So like we have here but when selecting text and click bold it will wrap the text with [ b] [ / b].
 
Robbo said:
The SMF one is the only one I have no issues with because it has a middle ground. It can do it without formatting but keeping all the buttons. So like we have here but when selecting text and click bold it will wrap the text with [ b] [ / b].
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Yeah... vB has that mode as well, and it's what I prefer myself.

Some days XF's editor makes me want to kill myself. I hope TinyMCE is ripped out of there and replaced (most of the issues are related to TinyMCE, not XF's implementation of it).
 
digitalpoint said:
Yeah... vB has that mode as well, and it's what I prefer myself.

Some days XF's editor makes me want to kill myself. I hope TinyMCE is ripped out of there and replaced (most of the issues are related to TinyMCE, not XF's implementation of it).
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Yep agreed. When I used Opera it wasn't so bad but since switching to chrome it can drive me insane. There is in general a lack of good open source editors.
 
Robbo said:
Yep agreed. When I used Opera it wasn't so bad but since switching to chrome it can drive me insane. There is in general a lack of good open source editors.
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CKEditor is pretty nice when implemented properly (they have both open source and commercial OEM licenses).

One day TinyMCE is going to piss me off enough that I'll try to implement CKEditor into XF.
 
digitalpoint said:
CKEditor is pretty nice when implemented properly (they have both open source and commercial OEM licenses).

One day TinyMCE is going to piss me off enough that I'll try to implement CKEditor into XF.
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It has already pissed me off enough to want to try implement something else... but I have no time to do it.
 
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