What does XF have that vB3 doesn't?
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Micheal
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the biggest problem with vb is for developers they continue to change there code so much the developers would have to completely re-right there add-ons as they would not work,
or they would conflict with other add-ons or vb code.
look what they did when they brought vb5 out everyone had to re-right all there add-ons.
or they would conflict with other add-ons or vb code.
look what they did when they brought vb5 out everyone had to re-right all there add-ons.
Alpha1
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vb3 is depended upon outdated technologies which will sooner or later cause problems. EOL dependencies like YUI2, PHP can cause a website to come to a halt if a security vulnerability stays unpatched or if a server is upgraded by the host. One thing that users do not want to encounter is their favorite forum to be gone one day, because the community / admin prefers to stay on outdated technology.
XenForo has a much more modern and user friendly look and feel, while it also follows similar approaches to vb3. So vb3 users will not feel the migration shock as much as with other platforms.
XenForo has a much more modern and user friendly look and feel, while it also follows similar approaches to vb3. So vb3 users will not feel the migration shock as much as with other platforms.
Tyrone Chicken
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Responsive, User Tagging, Modern, Better hashing algorithim so if you database is comprimised it'll take much longer than 20 seconds to crack it, Better PM system, Better editor, Lightwieght, Alerts, Likes (although I like the vB rep system a lot), and most importantly it isn't a dead platform.
billybatz9
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Better add-ons
Better Support for the forum
Superior quality
More of a community forum
Easier to use
Once you go xenforo, you don't go back. !
Stronger
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Safer
More fun
Better Smileys
Alerts
Better add-ons
Better Support for the forum
Superior quality
More of a community forum
Easier to use
Once you go xenforo, you don't go back. !
Razasharp
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Btw I meant alerts when I said notifications - that's one of the biggest reasons to move imo.
I have posted an updated list for my users, they generally trust my judgement, but I don't just want to spring things on them - particularly since we may have to lose some of our site sections (which were all powered by vB). Not that XF can't power them, but it's just lack of time to port them over, as we don't use them as much anymore.
Btw I meant alerts when I said notifications - that's one of the biggest reasons to move imo.
I have posted an updated list for my users, they generally trust my judgement, but I don't just want to spring things on them - particularly since we may have to lose some of our site sections (which were all powered by vB). Not that XF can't power them, but it's just lack of time to port them over, as we don't use them as much anymore.
DRE
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This gotta be my favorite reply. Reminds me of that daft Punk song.Faster
Stronger
Sexier
Safer
More fun
Better Smileys
Alerts
Better add-ons
Better Support for the forum
Superior quality
More of a community forum
Easier to use
Once you go xenforo, you don't go back. !
And don't forget 'easier'!
Alpha1
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Most addons (groups, blogs, images, etc) will allow you to display new content into the forum user experience(new posts, newsfeed, notifications) instead of bolting on separate systems. I have found this to be one of the most important benefits. Who cares about a blog system or an image gallery if the general memberbase never sees it?
DRE
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Yeah and this gets exceptionally useful when those addons actually add criteria which can then be used in promotions, upgrades, trophies and notices.
TPerry
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You better add some serious running to that.
Digital Doctor
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Amaury
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It depends, really.
I agree, vBulletin 5 right now isn't too good, but neither was vBulletin 4 at the beginning. Additionally, our members -- staff and non-staff alike -- at KH-Flare prefer vBulletin, so I wouldn't want to make a switch just like that and aggravate them.
Digital Doctor
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Alot of people are in the same boat, with that same line of thinking.
What happens is ... they try vB5 ... it's a disaster .... And then they buy Xenforo.
So I guess my money (and time and heartache) saving tip is .....
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TPerry
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Don't run a forum - they are addictive and 1 is not enough?
Amaury
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Well, this is where we're different from the others. We know what vBulletin 5 is like and are staying on vBulletin 4.
digitalpoint
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vB4 was somewhere around 100x better on it's initial release than vB5 is now after 7 months (to the day) of vB5 being released.
vB4 could (and was) used by sites in the beginning. The biggest issue with vB5 is that it can't (for technical reasons) realistically run on anything but the smallest sites with little or no traffic. It's a resource hog to the point of absurdum. vBulletin 5 uptake has been stuck at 0.5% of their install base since we started tracking it over here: https://tools.digitalpoint.com/cookie-search
So let's compare...
In 7 months, 0.5% of vBulletin's customer base have upgraded to their latest version.
In 10 months, 79.2% of Invision's customer base have upgraded to their latest version.
In less than 2 months, 58.7% of XenForo's customer base have upgraded to their latest version.
It's actually pretty sad, because vBulletin was really, really great at one point not too long ago. And now they more or less have no long-term future.
While this chart doesn't look like much, it shows vBulletin has lost 2.6% of the entire commercial forum marketshare in a matter of 7 weeks. Not even Nokia or Blackberry ever lost marketshare at that remotely that high of a rate (19.3% per year).
Amaury
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Fair enough.
I was mostly going by what I've read. I also read things like how during its early stages, vBulletin 4 was missing a lot of vBulletin 3 features and other features that needed modifications, but should have been core features.
digitalpoint
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Nothing like vB5 is though. We upgraded from vBulletin 3.8 to vBulletin 4.0 I believe at version 4.0.2, and it was fine other than us needing to rewrite the search function (we had more than 12,000,000 posts a the time). vB4 was at least a viable option. vB5 *can't* run a 12M post forum no matter how much you like it, and has nothing to do with missing features. It simply can't run. vbulletin.com is really too large to run on vB5... they had to do all sorts of crazy things like build a massive Varnish system just to make it sort of work (and it's still insanely slow).
Even if vB5 was missing no features from vB4, the way it was architected internally really makes it unusable from a technical standpoint.
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