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I just saw Paul M's Area 52, which is running VB5 Beta 14. It has Debug on, so you can see that they have reduced it to 60 queries. Still too (too!) many for an empty site but I guess it can be called an improvement.

The feeling I get right now from VB is that they are indeed focusing on performance, which is a good thing. Whether the architectural design of the software is capable of getting down to XF level of performance, I do not think so.
 
sadikb said:
I just saw Paul M's Area 52, which is running VB5 Beta 14. It has Debug on, so you can see that they have reduced it to 60 queries. Still too (too!) many for an empty site but I guess it can be called an improvement.

The feeling I get right now from VB is that they are indeed focusing on performance, which is a good thing. Whether the architectural design of the software is capable of getting down to XF level of performance, I do not think so.
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Login box seems to take a while to load over here. I do see a speed increase in this version, but still not good enough in some instances.

The software still has this flicker problem that needs ironing out.
 
vBulletin Announcement said:
vBulletin 5 Connect Beta 13 is now available for customers to download and for prospective customers to preview at www.vbulletin.com/vb5demo/.
The feedback thread on vBulletin 5 Connect beta 13 for our licensed customers is here.

We are continuing to make significant progress in our beta program. Beta 13 includes fixes to 112 issues. Beta 13 includes a variety of performance fixes, with many additional performance improvements coming shortly. Additionally, beta 13 fixes a wide variety of bugs including ones with Site Builder, the activity stream and the upgrade process.

A large number of the fixes in beta 13 are in response to feedback we have received from many of you who have been testing the previous betas. This input is enormously helpful and greatly appreciated. Thank you and please keep this feedback coming! We are already making good progress on our next beta release subsequent to 13, and we'll share this as soon as development and QA are complete.

(Note: As with all beta releases, we aren't able to provide phone or ticket support for beta 13. Customers purchasing a vBulletin 5 Connect license will receive 30 days of free ticket support starting with the gold release of the software.)
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https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php/408884-vBulletin-5-Connect-Beta-13-has-been-released
 
I've got an idea how vB works. Their idea of better performance at 60 SQL requests is akin to their belief that 400 bugs during a gold release (Okay I admit I just pulled that number out of thin air, it's been 2 years, give me a break) is so much better than 900 bugs. In my opinion, vB started going in reverse with 3.7. vB sites are so bad now I just avoid visiting forums that use the script. I can't deal with the slowness.

Off topic, but how many requests does Xenforo make, 15-25?
 
OSS 117 said:
Damn impressive. Too bad you can't make requests behave like sprite images.
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I'm sure there is a way to have even less. I am impressed that vBulletin exceeds 60 requests per display. I do not even see how IB can reach such a result for so little data displayed.
 
Digital Doctor said:
Query count -

vBulletin 5 beta 11 - 94-101 queries
vBulletin 5 beta 10 - 110 queries
vBulletin 5 beta 14 - approx. 60 queries
vBulletin 4 - 14 queries
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries forum home
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries on a 1 page thread
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries on a 38 page thread
IPB - 123 queries for page 2 with a topic containing 400 posts and 61 followers
IPB - 49 queries on a 2 page thread (note)
- 103 queries to show a thread that is 123 pages. (note)
- 8 queries to show the main forum index page (note)

I will add more data if you quote this post ! Thanks.
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Updated.
 
That's insane far too many the server load for even a small forum would be rather bad. VB5 loads increadible slow for me as well I shall be steering well clear of it.
 
Off-topic:

But you guys are making me feel really bad about the Query thing. My homepage with XenPorta runs more than 20 queries :( don't know if it is my mistake or not.. but it works ;)
 
Insy said:
11 on the forums list. 15 on the profile page.
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I've seen it stated as low as 6-7.

3rd AnGle said:
you guys are making me feel really bad about the Query thing. My homepage with XenPorta runs more than 20 queries :( don't know if it is my mistake or not.. but it works ;)
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XenPorta adds quite a few more, and anyhow that's the homepage, not the forum, so the requirements are somewhat different.
 
Insy said:
I'm sure there is a way to have even less. I am impressed that vBulletin exceeds 60 requests per display. I do not even see how IB can reach such a result for so little data displayed.
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Probably. You could remove non-useful data from the template so it doesn't poll the server. I recall Kier talking about the minimal postbit helping heaps with just that.
 
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