vb5 beta released, and...

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LOL :ROFLMAO:

Their server has crashed more times then every more than I can recall... Ever since they've started to play around with vBulletin 5 :ROFLMAO:

Screenshot from 2012-09-26 00:56:43.webp
 
lol... got ninja'd

Not sure what's causing vbulletin.com to be down so often recently. But if it's VB5 and this is what it's doing to their, what I suppose will be, a very powerful server... I can't imagine what will happen to the poor souls who want to install vb5 on a shared host... or even a modest VPS!
 
OMG... I am torn as to whether to say this bug count is believable or unbelievable. It is believable given the track record of vB over the past few years. It is unbelievable that this is their flagship product, the supposed leading edge in forum software.

I don't see how it will be possible for them to fix the issues given what I have read about the underlying code (I am no coder, but I do understand that the entire code is fraught with poorly written instructions, does not use accepted practices, and is, well, inartful). The biggest thing that jumps out at me is that in its current incarnation, hundreds of db queries speaks to a fundamentally flawed code.
 
If by, "only hundreds" you mean, "also thousands of bugs like vB4", you would be correct.

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If I may Ask DP. What are your plans for your site. Are you sticking with vb4 (continuing developing on that)? Waiting for vb5? still looking at xenforo as an alternative? are you still developing your add-ons for xf for your dev site? Is IPB an option for you? Quite interested to know what your looking at with regards to software.
 
If I may Ask DP. What are your plans for your site. Are you sticking with vb4 (continuing developing on that)? Waiting for vb5? still looking at xenforo as an alternative? are you still developing your add-ons for xf for your dev site? Is IPB an option for you? Quite interested to know what your looking at with regards to software.
Nothing is set in stone until the day we roll out changes publicly (mainly I hate being asked, "is it ready yet?"). I do not see a viable future for my site with vB5... So you can nix that idea right away.

On a side note, I don't write tons of code for no reason. :)
 
Nothing is set in stone until the day we roll out changes publicly (mainly I hate being asked, "is it ready yet?"). I do not see a viable future for my site with vB5... So you can nix that idea right away.

On a side note, I don't write tons of code for no reason. :)

Thanks for the response. Yeah it wasn't a case "is it ready yet" I wanted to hear your stance on the direction you were personally going, the direction your site is heading and you prity much answered it.

Without getting into the whole vb5 thing - that was never an option for me, nor was any other software xf is prity much the end of the line for me personally with forum software it's XF or nothing.
 
Haha ...
Bug Fix list

List of bug fixes for Beta 11:


VBV-4617 - Cannot access login form for IE8
VBV-4191 - Forum Topics > Page navigation for multiple pages of replies/comments does not work
VBV-3514 - Move Group Summary Module to right 30% column on default install.
VBV-2321 - 'Quick Channel Permission Setup' Invalid argument supplied errors
VBV-4203 - Blog page breaks after creating a blog
VBV-3413 - Scheduled Task Manager > Hourly Cleanup results in an error message
VBV-3212 - Cannot navigate through steps in Create a Blog
VBV-2923 - Update tools.php to work with new API and database structure.
VBV-2106 - Not authorized to create a blog entry in my own blog
VBV-1918 - Social group channel display widget is not displayed
VBV-1664 - Create a new Group: Publish button will just reload form, and group will not be created
VBV-478 - Deleting comments deletes parent reply in inline moderation.
VBV-4734 - Channel permissions not being saved
VBV-4613 - Can't view any content on IE8
VBV-4569 - Post pagination is broken, clicking next or previous will not do anything
VBV-4341 - DESCRIBE <tablename> queries being run on frontend
VBV-3833 - "Reset" Home Page permissions breaks Channel Permissions system
VBV-3518 - Can't post from Android Devices, editor stuck in Loading...
VBV-3289 - Fatal Error "Class vB_Route" on blogadmin/blog_url
VBV-1048 - Regular users can see unapproved posts
VBV-124 - Demo Site - Upload Logo Site Function Does Not Work
VBV-2148 - Advanced Editor: Uploading an image is broken
VBV-1002 - Select Template -> User Profile Template throws two script errors
VBV-4685 - Cannot attach links to link discussions
VBV-4621 - Username link doesn't link to user profile
VBV-4556 - "Error Loading Preview" on Editor
VBV-4395 - Possible prefix query issue
VBV-4394 - Notice phrases are being loaded individually
VBV-4365 - Strange Query on Home Page #3
VBV-4364 - Strange Query on Home Page #2
VBV-4363 - Strange Query on Home Page #1
VBV-4359 - Phrases in the navbar are being loaded one at a time
VBV-4321 - BB code doesn't render in post view in any non-Main forum
VBV-4306 - Blog subscriptions are not properly imported while upgrading.
VBV-4263 - Regression: /core/install does not redirect to /core/install/install.php
VBV-4258 - Ignore list isn't imported on upgrade
VBV-4246 - (IE9 only) User Profile: Attempting to upload a photo for the Profile Picture results in a 'file does not exist' error message
VBV-4245 - Error when using url to set the styleid
VBV-4240 - Forum viewer count in Directory tab is not implemented yet, always showing "0 Viewing"
VBV-4215 - Can't upload any media in profile
VBV-4104 - Previous subscriptions lost when vb.com was upgraded
VBV-4078 - Error occurs when uploading a photo to a New Topic
VBV-4051 - vB5 uses conversation based messaging instead of private message based - need to support conversation based APIs
VBV-4037 - Cannot log in with user in created usergroup
VBV-4034 - Cannot see visitor messages with an adminstrator
VBV-4015 - Cannot see soft-deleted post
VBV-3974 - Flag posts folder will display an internal error after upgrading from 4.2
VBV-3960 - Clicking like on my own post (merged replies) will display an error message
VBV-3862 - Profile - Activities not handling user privacy setting correctly.
VBV-3334 - Forumrunner product uses invalid hook name
VBV-571 - Privacy Settings in the profile do not work
VBV-4076 - Forum page shows error code instead of Activity Stream
VBV-3735 - Upgrade gets to 99% and then something in stylecache breaks it
VBV-2554 - Profile picture not working
VBV-871 - Upload button on blog settings is out of place.
VBV-4299 - BBCode disappearing on visitor messages and thread replies
VBV-3450 - Some "Notifications" settings don't send at all
VBV-3420 - Ignore List not working
VBV-3283 - Advanced Search: Search by Type 'Photo' does not return any results
VBV-3249 - User can upload pictures that exceed the total file size limit of albums
VBV-2953 - Search results content area repeats on page
VBV-2857 - Update Default User Registration Options
VBV-2768 - User Online image in postbit doesnt function - always shows "X is offline"
VBV-2500 - Upload avatar save button has no effect
VBV-354 - Unable to move nav items to subnav, and vice versa.
VBV-4612 - Go to post button is not working
VBV-4551 - Human verification images not showing up
VBV-4283 - Previous posts don't show under my user profile
VBV-4102 - Share button yields Not Yet Implemented error
VBV-4085 - Admin can't see profile pic/avatar (on profile)
VBV-4077 - Gallery search outputs array data
VBV-4042 - Strange Style after trying to log in to admincp on Alpha 45 (upgraded vb.com database)
VBV-4017 - Unapproving post makes it disappear from your view
VBV-4005 - Error on advanced editor (max attachment permission not respected)
VBV-3968 - Moving a thread to another channel will not change channel in a proper way
VBV-3779 - Clicking on Main Forum link on Latest Activity Module will redirect to core/install/upgrade.php
VBV-3731 - Poll styling issue on iPhone
VBV-3605 - Quote BB Code is not working properly
VBV-3575 - Fatal error: Class 'vB' not found after upgrading from vB4.2.0 to vB5 (Spanish)
VBV-3532 - Saving changes after adding a module on user settings page will lead to a bad URL
VBV-3527 - "%1$s" Error when saving template on blog admin page
VBV-3520 - "Show More" option on User Profiles is broken
VBV-3457 - Filter options doesn't work on "Edit Subscriptions"
VBV-3444 - Unable to give reputation to a post
VBV-3412 - Filter function is broken for Visitor Messages
VBV-3100 - Following another user causes an empty message in the Inbox
VBV-3069 - Cannot Login -- wrong form appears -- if using a non-standard port eg. :8080
VBV-3015 - Can't vote in Acivity Stream while the option is available
VBV-2626 - Create a new page for user to input activate ID manually
VBV-2553 - Admin Authentication for Site Builder does not reload on last page
VBV-2453 - Registration date and post count not displayed properly in private messages
VBV-2217 - Unsubscribe of thread return empty error
VBV-2039 - Registration page styling doesn't follow common element style guide rules
VBV-1997 - Limited response area when clicking in "recipient" text field
VBV-981 - There's something wrong with "New Posts Alert"
VBV-858 - Guest comments display without username or avatar.
VBV-1070 - Blog Organize Sidebar not implemented
VBV-963 - Edit Site button is displayed for non-superuser admins.
VBV-4606 - Home tab cannot be renamed in the edit Navigation Bar page
VBV-3877 - Logging in admincp with wrong credentials shows debug error
VBV-2023 - Vote button will not be swapped by "Unvote" after voting in a blog post
VBV-1843 - Phrases from specific language not correctly returned
VBV-719 - Human verification works oddly in registration
VBV-382 - Demo Site (IE8 Only) - Font menus not functional in Advanced Editor
VBV-1987 - Search icon isn't being displayed
VBV-4437 - Can't access images by going directly to their URL
VBV-3310 - Non-existing phrase displayed in AdminCP Home Pages
VBV-1434 - "Network Error" in Firebug console when clicking on the "General settings" option in the blog administration menu
VBV-885 - Browser isn't redirecting to home after registering
VBV-897 - Edit subscriptions - Empty space / No message when you have no subscriptions
VBV-1289 - Error message when posting poll with options too long not properly phrased
VBV-3010 - Some option groups aren't displaying the group title
VBV-4724 - Subscribers / subscriptions inconsistency
VBV-4638 - "Edit Settings" button in Profile links to homepage
VBV-4573 - Beta 11 Error Messages
VBV-3966 - Web upgrade takes too long
 
I don't understand how we can all sit here and slam the vB5 beta so religiously. It obviously has some major flaws at the moment but is making progress. I've been watching it carefully. Remember that it's BETA at the moment and has gremlins.

It's a complete rewrite so let's just see where it goes. It may just surprise us.
 
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