So what you're saying is, only a built-in Dislike feature will do for your forum of unpleasantness, and that, as a forum admin/owner, you must set a role model for the morally repugnant. If I were K&M, I'd be looking for a back door to shove you out of.xenforo would rather me coerce my members into some sort of tellytubby community, which would be bound for failure....not all communities strive to be facebook or to force a false harmony between discordant users....obviously k&m are in love with facebook and the sunshine forum concept.
XenForo doesn't coerce anything; they just don't offer a feature you feel is a requirement. You can easily have it added as a modification if they still don't add it.
Nothing has been forced upon you, as you don't even own a license to the forum yet. Also, unless you missed it, they're rethinking their stance on the dislike functionality, but there are things that have been prioritized above it (As it should be).
And while my users troll and try to create drama, I do not allow them to do so; Not because I do not allow them free speech (I have a forum for rants and the like), but more that it tends to be a turnoff to new users and impedes growth of the forum in most cases.
I also think its quite immature to say something that can be taken as a direct insult to Mike and Kier when they've worked almost non-stop with the effort they've put into XenForo, as well as trying to cater to the majority of users and communities.
Dislike is being debated between them again, as was stated in a previous post, and attacking them in the way you has really gives weight into a reason of -not- adding it.
So what you're saying is, only a built-in Dislike feature will do for your forum of unpleasantness, and that, as a forum admin/owner, you must set a role model for the morally repugnant. If I were K&M, I'd be looking for a back door to shove you out of.
And people wonder why most companies keep 10 layers of communication between anyone involved in development, and the front line forums.
I post where I please.curious if youll post that over the road as well.
The forum is called 'suggestions', not flame the developers of the software and try to shame them into adding something you apparently need on your respect-free no-holds-barred forum.anyway, the forum is indeed called 'SUGGESTIONS', not 'praise and devotion'.
the feature is not included due to anothers vision of community harmony, a vision which would then be extended to any forum running xenforo. anything can be done via a hack. that was never in question. i am discussing default functionality.
obviously i have no license, but if i did just by the nature of the software certain things are forced upon the community it runs on.
and that is your choice and what works for your board. i happen to trust myself to admin my board, and do not require anybody to decide whether a button adds or detracts from the environment. thats my call.
i worked 11 hours today and nobody brought me milk and cookies either. this is a commercial venture, yes? 'majority' is questionable. perhaps the majority of eager early adopters, but those members shouldnt be mistaken for admins as a whole.
ironically enough, i recall being told that a dislike button wasnt needed because those that disagree should have to post their disagreement rather than simply clicking a button....
well, i actually have been suggesting a system where an admin can run whatever button they want. you can make it a 'hug' button for all i care. i am not interested in playing admin to your forum or trying to engineer the vibe of your board. i will leave that to you.
I don't think K&M are little girls that need protection from the xen community when people are vocal about their opinions on software. On the dislike button discussion, and the "let us create X number of buttons which we can name", we have to remember how tied to the system the like button already is, and it could drastically change the design of a big portion of the software.
Saying that XenForo is a "tellytubby community", trying to "force a false harmony", and "in love with facebook and the sunshine forum concept", that my friends is Trolling.
I'm not going to stand by and say nothing, regardless of my authority or lack thereof.
If you want a feature, ask for it. If it doesn't get delivered, get a plugin. Being a jackass doesn't help your cause.
And people wonder why most companies keep 10 layers of communication between anyone involved in development, and the front line forums.
curious if youll post that over the road as well.
anyway, the forum is indeed called 'SUGGESTIONS', not 'praise and devotion'.
ok I see, I didn't read it that way, my apologies.This was more then vocal, it was a direct attack against them, and I wans't really protecting them. I just find it extremely disrespectful of him to words things in a manner that is a direct attack against them when they're putting the dislike feature back into reconsideration.
My board isn't about cars, bunnies or rainbows.
It would be great to have an extra "use for anything" button. I'd use it for LOL.
LOL that would be kind of cool actually
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