Random Thoughts...

[Adam Howard]

We would need an alternative to Windows that isn't exclusive to a manufacturer (like Apple for instance) and is compatible with most devices (sorry Linux lol).

Actually, the answer is Ubuntu.

Every device I've come across, both old and new seems to work with it. They have a close relationship with nvidia for drivers (official drivers) and AMD (ATI) as well.

Dell, HP, and I believe even Gateway now offer computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.

The answer is Linux.... Any alternative would need a following before it grew. No following, no growth.

Steam also works just fine on Ubuntu. A lot of Windows games are porting over now. A few well known names are do to come out (some already have).

 

[Sador]

Actually, the answer is Ubuntu.

Every device I've come across, both old and new seems to work with it. They have a close relationship with nvidia for drivers (official drivers) and AMD (ATI) as well.

Dell, HP, and I believe even Gateway now offer computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.

The answer is Linux.... Any alternative would need a following before it grew. No following, no growth.

Steam also works just fine on Ubuntu. A lot of Windows games are porting over now. A few well known names are do to come out (some already have).

Compatibility, user friendliness and support will ultimately decide whether Linux in any shape or form will have a chance of becoming a widely used OS. As long as the majority of the games that work on Windows don't work on Linux, there's little reason to start using Linux over Windows. Only if all / most programs and games run on both, it'll be a good choice. As it is now, many products simply aren't able to be used on Linux on their own, which cripples its uses for most people.

Secondly, most people just aren't that smart or techy. The main reason why Windows (and Apple) are big hits, is because it's relatively easy to use, minimal learning curve and in case of windows has been around forever, so most people know how to use it. It's the same reason Internet Explorer is still used by a lot of people, while there are superior options available.. people got used to it, know how to use the basic functions and don't want to learn something new and scary. And let's be fair, Linux right now is just that.

Lastly, Linux will have to be supported by the majority of the developers and public before it can really expand beyond what it is now. As long as most developers develop for windows (and if you're lucky, Apple too) and as long as most 'normal' consumers have barely ever heard of Linux, let alone use it, it's not likely to suddenly explode in growth. Unfortunately.

 

[Adam Howard]

Compatibility, user friendliness and support will ultimately decide whether Linux in any shape or form will have a chance of becoming a widely used OS. As long as the majority of the games that work on Windows don't work on Linux, there's little reason to start using Linux over Windows. Only if all / most programs and games run on both, it'll be a good choice. As it is now, many products simply aren't able to be used on Linux on their own, which cripples its uses for most people.

Secondly, most people just aren't that smart or techy. The main reason why Windows (and Apple) are big hits, is because it's relatively easy to use, minimal learning curve and in case of windows has been around forever, so most people know how to use it. It's the same reason Internet Explorer is still used by a lot of people, while there are superior options available.. people got used to it, know how to use the basic functions and don't want to learn something new and scary. And let's be fair, Linux right now is just that.

Lastly, Linux will have to be supported by the majority of the developers and public before it can really expand beyond what it is now. As long as most developers develop for windows (and if you're lucky, Apple too) and as long as most 'normal' consumers have barely ever heard of Linux, let alone use it, it's not likely to suddenly explode in growth. Unfortunately.

I disagree with Linux being not "noob friendly" and the idea that you have to be an expert to use is an old stereotype.

Granted, when Linux first came out, that view point was correct. You did need to know terminal command and how to manually compile programs to install or run.

But today, Ubuntu is so user friendly that you can run it without ever touching the command prompt or manually configuring system files. You can completely manage it with mouse clicks, just as you would Windows or Apple.

They even have an app store, the same way Windows or Android does. If you've ever used a smart phone in your life, you can install and setup programs.

.DEB files work just the same as .EXE or .MSI install files. You click or double click and it installs. If you don't have the requirement, it does something an .EXE file doesn't... It actually fetches the requirements for you & sets them up.

^ So you can find apps outside their app store, just like you would Windows or Apple (but its even a little better).

But I do believe they have to overcome that stereotype (past history) which is still rooted in people's minds.

I can't comment on how to fix stupid though... And name brand only view I'd call stupid. Not that it change anything. Yes, X program maybe Windows only, but Y program does everything exactly the same and maybe more.... But because its not X named and branded....

Need to figure out how to cure that stupid aspect.

 

[SneakyDave]

I would never manage a Linux server in X Windows, just saying. My wife had a Ubuntu desktop for a while, and it never seemed to apply OS updates correctly. I had to connect to it and run them myself from the command line.

Noob friendly? No.

 

[Sador]

I disagree with Linux being not "noob friendly" and the idea that you have to be an expert to use is an old stereotype.

Granted, when Linux first came out, that view point was correct. You did need to know terminal command and how to manually compile programs to install or run.

But today, Ubuntu is so user friendly that you can run it without ever touching the command prompt or manually configuring system files. You can completely manage it with mouse clicks, just as you would Windows or Apple.

They even have an app store, the same way Windows or Android does. If you've ever used a smart phone in your life, you can install and setup programs.

.DEB files work just the same as .EXE or .MSI install files. You click or double click and it installs. If you don't have the requirement, it does something an .EXE file doesn't... It actually fetches the requirements for you & sets them up.

^ So you can find apps outside their app store, just like you would Windows or Apple (but its even a little better).

But I do believe they have to overcome that stereotype (past history) which is still rooted in people's minds.

I can't comment on how to fix stupid though... And name brand only view I'd call stupid. Not that it change anything. Yes, X program maybe Windows only, but Y program does everything exactly the same and maybe more.... But because its not X named and branded....

Need to figure out how to cure that stupid aspect.

There are people who for the life of them don't know how to plug a cable into a power supply, or know that there's a way to reach websites beyond typing it into google and hope for the best. Those people would not be comfortable with Linux, as anything beyond the most basic stuff would utterly confuse them. Let alone figure out how to use Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer in Linux.. (note: I realize what I'm saying here. It's intentional.)

I'm sure for slightly more experienced users it's all right, but for a lot of people it really isn't. And stupid or not, these are also the people that need to be able to run it to make it a widely used success.

 

[Adam Howard]

There are people who for the life of them don't know how to plug a cable into a power supply, or know that there's a way to reach websites beyond typing it into google and hope for the best. Those people would not be comfortable with Linux, as anything beyond the most basic stuff would utterly confuse them. Let alone figure out how to use Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer in Linux.. (note: I realize what I'm saying here. It's intentional.)

I'm sure for slightly more experienced users it's all right, but for a lot of people it really isn't. And stupid or not, these are also the people that need to be able to run it to make it a widely used success.

I love my mother and my sister, but they know nothing about technology. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Na`da.

I'm 1/2 convinced they're either unable to learn or just don't want to learn.

Come to think of it...

My sister actually said (her words), "A computer isn't something you should have to learn, it should just work the way you want it to"

And I love my mother dearly, but this is the women who asked me (repeatedly) , "where is the desktop, where is the any key, how do install and update" ...... And my favorite .... Yes, it gave me a message, no I didn't read it, I just pressed "OK" (or cancel).

If they can understand or use Ubuntu .... I'm sure others can

 

[Luxus]

I wonder if the Xbox One will be a total failure.

 

[Sheldon]

I wonder if the Xbox One will be a total failure.

I'm banking on yes. I am Anti-XBOX. Hahaha.

 

[Digital Doctor]

RIP vVv

I hardly knew your foot fetish ways.
But I do remember seeing a picture of your ...
nevermind.

 

[Sador]

1111 posts. Almost a shame to break that amount. Oh well.

Edit: with 560 likes, so more than 50% like rate. Not bad, if I do say so myself.

 

[DRE]

I need to know... who this is...

 

[DRE]

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[DRE]

I'm too lazy to upgrade to 1.1.5

 

[Digital Doctor]

I need to know... who this is...

Yea.
So do I.

 

[DRE]

Yea.
So do I.

Diosa

 

[Digital Doctor]

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Source: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/offtopic-uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.50824/

 

[DRE]

Do you post on any other forums? Post in your opinion how you think a thread like that would play out on those other forums.

 

[DRE]

Watched Fast and Furious 6. Was good. Not better than the 5th one though.

 

[Adam Howard]

I've seen "the box". It's one ugly place. I wouldn't want to live there, can't imagine how anyone can think in it. No, I'm much happier & productive outside the box.

 

[Digital Doctor]

I tried to run.