Quit smoking
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AnthonyCea
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I'm a chain smoker, when I have a pack I will smoke one after the other until I am sick, it is the pattern of a substance abuser, which means if it is around you it will be abused no matter what the recreational drug or alcohol is.
So if I am around friends and they are smoking I will go into my bum act and start bumming smokes from others, most of the time in any social setting they are more than happy to oblige and I am hooked once again bumming all the day long.
So if I am around friends and they are smoking I will go into my bum act and start bumming smokes from others, most of the time in any social setting they are more than happy to oblige and I am hooked once again bumming all the day long.
AnthonyCea
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Hey, I'm an old 70's hippie/rebel, so we did it all in the day, at least in those days.
Peggy
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Like I said...... nuts.....
AnthonyCea
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LOL, I still dream about all the great times we had.
Wish I was there like that old Pink Floyd song 'wish you were here'.
I will say that smoking is one of the worst things any human can do, even a few cigarettes will do a lot of damage, let alone going on a chain smoking binge.
We choose to damage ourselves, no one forces a smoke on you, it is mind over matter if you do want to quit, at the same time you must realize that it is a substance abuse problem, and if you abuse one substance it can lead to you abusing many others.
Wish I was there like that old Pink Floyd song 'wish you were here'.
I will say that smoking is one of the worst things any human can do, even a few cigarettes will do a lot of damage, let alone going on a chain smoking binge.
We choose to damage ourselves, no one forces a smoke on you, it is mind over matter if you do want to quit, at the same time you must realize that it is a substance abuse problem, and if you abuse one substance it can lead to you abusing many others.
Kim
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Of course there is a risk any smoker can have a stroke anytime... It is very well known, but it seems extrordinarily co-incidental does it not, that it happens immedately after starting a course of a drug for which this is a known possible side effect.
I wouldn't touch Zyban myself, and I do think that everyone can give up without taking such a dangerous drug. You disagree, well that is fine
I am not out to convince you or anyone else of anything, my comment was "research that (Zyban) thoroughly before going down that path" Pretty sound advice i would have though Researching any medication is a worthwhile thing before taking it.I offered my personal experience, and related the experience of someone I knew... that is all it is, nothing more, nothing less, take it as you will, I have no agenda here.
AnthonyCea
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All prescription drugs have possible dangerous side effects, just watch the commercials on TV, they tell you that 100 times a day.
Peggy
in memoriam 2016
heh sometimes the side affects are worse than whatever you're taking it for.
Kaiser
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Anthony how was the 70's? Did you smoke weed like crazy back then?
AnthonyCea
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Our examples (the kids growing up in the mid 70's) was this generation of hippies.
That pretty much explains it, let's put it this way, the Vietnam war protesters were us, in high school the teachers let us have a spot we all called 'the hill' outside the building to party during school hours, we could not be controlled due to the major rebellion of most of the kids against the Vietnam war and the US government, at that time they did not even try or bother to enforce many school rules.
iTuN3r
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I can guess how it must have been Since you are from 70's Hippie/rebel i guess you know bit info about -(Nepal) too
Weed was famous thing back then and even now i loved those days when we used to smoke weeds all day 
Those old days are gone just old memories good enough to bring a smile on face .
AnthonyCea
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LOL, we did not know much about Nepal, but we know the soldiers that came back from Vietnam brought a lot of their ways back with them.
We did know the term Thai Stick though from that part of the world.
We did know the term Thai Stick though from that part of the world.
Kim
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AnthonyCea
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In those days most of us were exactly like Cheech and Chong, it is uncanny how right on those guys portrayed the generation in film and in their comedy routines.
CTXMedia
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What surprised me was that most all of my cigarette addiction was in my mind - I'll illustrate.
I swore blind on the day my daughter was born that I would stop; stop my 40-a-day habit. I didn't manage it.
Almost a year later, a long-term friend of mine got cancer and after the op to remove it he looked like a patchwork quilt.
I went to see him in hospital, and as I rounded to corner to enter his room I saw his daughter and grandson by his bedside and it struck me - there and then, and in a way that no amount of personal promises did over the many years that I tried to quit - that it could be me in that bed and my wife and daughter looking gravely down at me.
I vowed to quit, and that weekend stocked-up on the patches and got myself prepared. I was deadly serious, and more so than at any time before, and I wanted, more than anything in the world, to be around to watch my daughter grow up.
On the second day after quitting I was desparate to have a cigarette. I would have clawed the eyes out of a smelly tramp to get my mits on a cigarette, so I quietly left the house that evening and took the short walk to the local off-licenses to get some cigs. I bought a 10-pack and ceremoneously unwrapped the packet. I slowly withdrew the foil, and slid a cigarette out; here we go ... fireworks, releif, a wave of pleasure, and all that other stuff you expect when you haven't had a cigarette for hours ... and ......................... nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nada. Not a sausage. NOTHING HAPPENED ... ARRGGHHH!!!!
It was only then that I realised that the patch was doing its thing. It was giving me the nicotine and dealing with the physical side of my cigarette addiction. All the rest, all the tension, desparation, desire, etc. was all just up in my head; and this proved it, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Of course I wasn't completely convinced and repeated the exercise a few days later - with the same result - and after that didn't bother trying again.
9 weeks after starting with the patches I forgot to wear one to work and went all day without realising - a great feeling to know that I'd been "cured"!
What was also interesting though was that for weeks and months and even years afterwards, I would be in a situation where I might normally smoke or that might trigger a "ciggie call" and my mind would prompt me to light-up. After watching a film at the cinema, after visitng someone at the hospital, after a meeting or interview, when leaving a clients' offices ... all those places where you wouldn't normally be able to smoke, and where the first thing you did on leaving was to light up a cig.
I must admit though, knowing how hard I struggled with "giving up" for years, I'd never preach at anyone about quitting - I'm just thankful I have managed to do it for myself and my family.
Mind you, whilst Benson & Hedges aren't making as much profit from me anymore - McVities and the cream cake manufacturers are coining it in ...
Cheers,
Shaun
I swore blind on the day my daughter was born that I would stop; stop my 40-a-day habit. I didn't manage it.
Almost a year later, a long-term friend of mine got cancer and after the op to remove it he looked like a patchwork quilt.
I went to see him in hospital, and as I rounded to corner to enter his room I saw his daughter and grandson by his bedside and it struck me - there and then, and in a way that no amount of personal promises did over the many years that I tried to quit - that it could be me in that bed and my wife and daughter looking gravely down at me.
I vowed to quit, and that weekend stocked-up on the patches and got myself prepared. I was deadly serious, and more so than at any time before, and I wanted, more than anything in the world, to be around to watch my daughter grow up.
On the second day after quitting I was desparate to have a cigarette. I would have clawed the eyes out of a smelly tramp to get my mits on a cigarette, so I quietly left the house that evening and took the short walk to the local off-licenses to get some cigs. I bought a 10-pack and ceremoneously unwrapped the packet. I slowly withdrew the foil, and slid a cigarette out; here we go ... fireworks, releif, a wave of pleasure, and all that other stuff you expect when you haven't had a cigarette for hours ... and ......................... nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nada. Not a sausage. NOTHING HAPPENED ... ARRGGHHH!!!!
It was only then that I realised that the patch was doing its thing. It was giving me the nicotine and dealing with the physical side of my cigarette addiction. All the rest, all the tension, desparation, desire, etc. was all just up in my head; and this proved it, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Of course I wasn't completely convinced and repeated the exercise a few days later - with the same result - and after that didn't bother trying again.
9 weeks after starting with the patches I forgot to wear one to work and went all day without realising - a great feeling to know that I'd been "cured"!
What was also interesting though was that for weeks and months and even years afterwards, I would be in a situation where I might normally smoke or that might trigger a "ciggie call" and my mind would prompt me to light-up. After watching a film at the cinema, after visitng someone at the hospital, after a meeting or interview, when leaving a clients' offices ... all those places where you wouldn't normally be able to smoke, and where the first thing you did on leaving was to light up a cig.
I must admit though, knowing how hard I struggled with "giving up" for years, I'd never preach at anyone about quitting - I'm just thankful I have managed to do it for myself and my family.
Mind you, whilst Benson & Hedges aren't making as much profit from me anymore - McVities and the cream cake manufacturers are coining it in ...
Cheers,
Shaun
Digital Doctor
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GeeksKickAss: great story ... thanks for sharing.
AnthonyCea
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Cigarettes are said to be more addictive than heroin, so no doubt it is a serious drug abuse problem/substance abuse problem, just as alcohol is for humans, none of us like to think of ourselves as drug addicts or alcoholics, but I had one doctor tell me that anyone who drinks more than 3 beers a day everyday is an alcoholic.
Doctors will also tell you that you are a recovering drug addict or alcoholic for the rest of your life, even if you have quit.
Doctors will also tell you that you are a recovering drug addict or alcoholic for the rest of your life, even if you have quit.
Digital Doctor
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Cigarettes aren't more addictive than heroin.
It's harder to quit cigarettes than heroin. Mostly because it is "almost" socially reasonable to smoke, but no one approves of a heroin habit. (other than your dealer).
21 or more drinks per week is felt to be a "Dependent drinker".
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Recommended-Safe-Limits-of-Alcohol.htm
it's only 14 per week for a woman.
Personally those numbers are low. But if you are drinking 28 per week, you are likely harming yourself. 21 for a woman.