Please Don't Get Carried Away

Ryan

Well-known member
It's been about 2 weeks now. Things are moving rapidly and shaping up very nicely here. I had a concern early on and that concern still lingers. There have been many cases where I've seen a new feature implemented that looks cool and is flashy, but it interferes with my use of the forums.

Examples

- Multi-Quote
That feature, to me, is for single-quoting, and nothing more. It's fine when quoting one person, but it is not realistic as a multi-quote feature. It's annoying to have to scroll up and down and up and down and up and down to quote multiple people.

- The confirmation dialog on "Mark all forums read"
It's just unnecessary. I know why it was put there - and that's because people were accidentally clicking on the link (myself included) when it was first in the sub-navigation. Problem is, you fixed this accidental clicking by moving the link - you don't need to add a confirmation on top of that.

- The "mini me" avater to indicate you've posted in a thread
When you shrink an avatar down that small and then put it on top of another avatar, it looks like a mess. It's hard to pick out when scanning an entire page, defeating the purpose of the indicator. Also, when you shrink an avatar down that small, it's hard to even tell what it is a picture of. The fact that it's your avatar is a moot point by the time you lean in close to the screen to squint at it. A simple icon is all that is needed there.

- The "bouncy" effect used when zooming to quotes or resizing images
When you click the up arrow in a quote, you're shot up to the original post. When you get to the top, the screen bounces back and forth real quick. It looks cool the first few times, but it gets annoying fast. The same is true for the animation effect when you click on an image that's been resized. Unnecessary animations make me cringe.

- The floating description when you hover over a subforum
The description should just be fixed underneath the title


Now, before you start throwing stones at me...Kier and Mike are doing a lot of things correctly here. There are a lot of flashy features here that I love (member card popups, thrread page number scrolling effect, quick nav in the footer, alerts...). They're being very innovative and cutting-edge. Most times, they're hitting the target, but a lot of times they are not. I understand that in order to be innovative, you've got to be radical. When you are radical, you're going to try stuff that doesn't work, and maybe that's what they're doing.

Not here to argue individual features (there is a separate thread for every one of these). I'm more here to point out this basic trend that I've noticed that features are being add that look cool and hip but aren't very practical. I don't want XF to get bloated with animations, popups, etc. Part of what is so appealing to me about XF is how sleak everything is.

Am I alone? :oops:
 
No offense to anyone, but I think worrying about people "fooling" other people with an avatar like that is slightly paranoid.
If anyone in any of my forums decided to do that (which I can't see happening) I would just remove that avatar, tell them off and be done with it. That sort of stunt doesn't win anyone any friends or admiration. I seriously doubt anyone will actually do that.
To me that mini avatar thing is very original, very intuitive - you know instantly what it means. And to me, that is what xenForo is all about.
It's a minor consideration of course (hence my 'for whatever reason they might want to do so' comment) but I've actually seen lots of instances of people manipulating signatures and content etc. to imitate website chrome - in fact you can find several threads [1], [2] around here where people have been fooled by a mischievous Floris playing around with that sort of thing :rolleyes: - at least his are good-natured though.
 
It's a minor consideration of course (hence my 'for whatever reason they might want to do so' comment) but I've actually seen lots of instances of people manipulating signatures and content etc. to imitate website chrome - in fact you can find several threads [1], [2] around here where people have been fooled by a mischievous Floris playing around with that sort of thing :rolleyes: - at least his are good-natured though.
Oh ok... Well, color me naive... Maybe I'm just too strict an admin and people on my forums know they are going to get hell for doing that. lol
 
I love the design of the url links in postings

- The "bouncy" effect used when zooming to quotes or resizing images
When you click the up arrow in a quote, you're shot up to the original post. When you get to the top, the screen bounces back and forth real quick. It looks cool the first few times, but it gets annoying fast. The same is true for the animation effect when you click on an image that's been resized. Unnecessary animations make me cringe.

I just believe there has to be a good balance between design and usability. XenForo nailed this for 95% IMHO. For me, like stated, it's only the mouse-over forumdescriptions and a tiny little avatar (often a photography image) over a bigger (also often photography image) avatar for threads you've posted in, that are areas where I feel the design is in the way of the usability. Pretty good interface if these are the only things I would like to see different.

I mean, I get what you are trying to say with 'unnecessary' animations. It may be unnecessary in some instances, but it sure does make using this software much more pleasurable compared to existing forum software out there. Let me give the example of the http://-links in postings. I think this is just great design. Normally on websites you just click a link and that's it. Functional. But here on XenForo, when you click a link, you actually get visual feedback that you are clicking it. It looks&feels like if you are clicking/pressing something... and little nice things like this make using XenForo -for me at least- a very nice experience.

Forum should be pleasurable to use. Should people get attracted to it and it should be enjoyable to use and spend time on (so they stay on your platform). XenForo accomplishes this for me and you can see the care and thoughts that have been put into the importance of the UI throughout the whole product. I am a sucker for good interfaces, so I love this.
 
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