Osama Bin Laden is dead!!

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To pick up on what someone said earlier about his body being thrown in the sea (sorry don't remember who) - I saw it as an interesting gesture - what better way to dispose of trash than to just lob it over the side... giving him a proper burial would have shown him more respect than he deserves.
 
maidos said:
when i saw the footage of american ppl celebrating osamas death i feel uncomfortable, mainly they are celebrating someone else death, although i can understand their reason for doing it.
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Yea. Me too for some reason.
I still think osama should at least deserve a trial instead of getting shot instantly. why is that a difference compare to saddam who did get a trial?
also im not even sure if its really true that osama is dead. They have not produced any real evidence for the public that it is him. And doing a DNA testing when after the body get dumped in the water why? its a first time ever ive heard the us military prioritizing other peoples traidtion over their one decade manhunt that costed them trillion of dollars. How can they do the dna testing anyway, do they actually have osamas dna in other to crossreference with the man they shot in pakistan?
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The operation was a KILL operation.
They never intended to capture him.
Why ?
I think the reason is simple: if they captured him .... there would be 1,000 hostage takings and they would demand he be released. Unfortunately, I dont think you can capture someone of his notoriety.
 
Azhria Lilu said:
To pick up on what someone said earlier about his body being thrown in the sea (sorry don't remember who) - I saw it as an interesting gesture - what better way to dispose of trash than to just lob it over the side... giving him a proper burial would have shown him more respect than he deserves.
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Agreed. Altho they said this morning that burying him at sea was in keeping with Islamic burial practices which call for a speedy burial.

Whatever, at least he's gone.
 
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Peggy said:
Agreed. Altho they said this morning that burying him at sea was in keeping with Islamic burial practices which call for a speedy burial.

Whatever, at least he's gone.
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I found this interesting explanation of the different burial procedures for the Muslim faith... seems that he was supposed to be buried at sea only if he died at sea and there was little chance of his body staying "fresh" until he reached land.

If a person dies on a ship and if there is no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship, it should be kept on it and buried in the ground after reaching the land. Otherwise, after giving Ghusl, Hunut, Kafan and Namaz-e-Mayyit it should be lowered into the sea in a vessel of clay or with a weight tied to its feet. And as far as possible it should not be lowered at a point where it is eaten up immediately by the sea predators.
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maidos said:
also im not even sure if its really true that osama is dead. They have not produced any real evidence for the public that it is him. And doing a DNA testing when after the body get dumped in the water why? its a first time ever ive heard the us military prioritizing other peoples traidtion over their one decade manhunt that costed them trillion of dollars. How can they do the dna testing anyway, do they actually have osamas dna in other to crossreference with the man they shot in pakistan?
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It is my understanding that they did the DNA test before the military went in to get him. They had to be sure it was him before they went in due to the fact that he is well known for using doubles. The DNA was tested against that of his dead sister.

There are conflicting reports as to whether the test was done before we went in or after he was dead. Given that DNA tests aren't completed within a matter of hours, despite what we see on TV, and the fact that Obama stated in his speech last night that the DNA test was done prior to the military operation, I'm inclined to believe his version (altho I believe him on little else).
 
Bin Laden Death First Announced on Twitter.

It's the kind of news scoop that every journalist and news outlet dreams of reporting first. But it wasn't one of the "big boys" who proclaimed the news of the death of Osama bin Laden; it was a 15-word tweet on Twitter.
A previously little-known former White House staffer was the first to report that bin Laden was dead, though he may not have realized the import of what he was doing at the time.
Keith Urbahn, the former chief of staff for Donald Rumsfeld, the former U.S. defence secretary under President George W. Bush, was the one who leaked one of the biggest news scoops of the century. And the media outlet he used to reveal the news wasn't a respectable news agency or newspaper; it was himself, through Twitter.
After the White House announced suddenly just before 10 p.m. ET Sunday night that the President of the United States would address the world in 30 minutes, Twitter erupted in speculation.
What could prompt the president to hold a news conference at that time of night with that little notice, Twitter users began asking. Was it about something in the Mideast? Libya? Perhaps the death of Moammar Gadhafi?
Twitter was immediately overrun by #ObamaGuesses. But while reporters tried to work their sources and find out what was going on, it was Urbahn who revealed the news in a 79-character tweet.

At 10:25, Urbahn tweeted: "So I'm told by a reputable person they have killed Osama Bin Laden. Hot damn."

Within minutes, Urbahn appeared to step back a bit, tweeting next: "Don't know if its true, but let's pray it is" and then: "Ladies, gents, let's wait to see what the President says. Could be misinformation or pure rumor."
If the tweet had come from someone less reliable, Urbahn's tweets may have disappeared into the cyberspace either.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110502/osama-bin-laden-death-twitter-urbahn-110502/
 
Azhria Lilu said:
I found this interesting explanation of the different burial procedures for the Muslim faith... seems that he was supposed to be buried at sea only if he died at sea and there was little chance of his body staying "fresh" until he reached land.
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Yeah I see what you're saying. I personally think they only buried him at sea so he could be eaten by the sharks.
Man I'm bad this morning.
 
Peggy said:
Yeah I see what you're saying. I personally think they only buried him at sea so he could be eaten by the sharks.
Man I'm bad this morning.
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Didn't they freeze dry him before throwing him overboard? I could be wrong, but freezing drying to me looks like the most logical solution to take before adding salt and water to any body?
 
They buried him at sea for a variety of reasons. 1 - Obama is fanatical about making sure we don't piss off muslims and muslim tradition states the burial must take place within 24 hours. There are reports that his body was washed and wrapped in white linen in accordance with tradition. 2 - Where on earth would you bury this scum and not have his grave become a shrine? What country would want that on their soil?
 
John said:
They buried him at sea for a variety of reasons. 1 - Obama is fanatical about making sure we don't piss off muslims and muslim tradition states the burial must take place within 24 hours. There are reports that his body was washed and wrapped in white linen in accordance with tradition. 2 - Where on earth would you bury this scum and not have his grave become a shrine? What country would want that one their soil?
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I think that's the other thing - if they'd buried him, you can pretty much guarantee it'd become a shrine to the fanatics. ... Although saying that, if it meant they were making regular pilgrimages to his grave, you'd only have to focus those weapons on one target . . . .

In all seriousness, though, I feel sorry for the rest of the Muslim people - as a religion it's got so much bad press because of the fanatics.
 
John said:
They buried him at sea for a variety of reasons. 1 - Obama is fanatical about making sure we don't piss off muslims and muslim tradition states the burial must take place within 24 hours. There are reports that his body was washed and wrapped in white linen in accordance with tradition. 2 - Where on earth would you bury this scum and not have his grave become a shrine? What country would want that on their soil?
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Azhria Lilu said:
I think that's the other thing - if they'd buried him, you can pretty much guarantee it'd become a shrine to the fanatics. ... Although saying that, if it meant they were making regular pilgrimages to his grave, you'd only have to focus those weapons on one target . . . .

In all seriousness, though, I feel sorry for the rest of the Muslim people - as a religion it's got so much bad press because of the fanatics.
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Very true, but the downside to burying him at sea is that HE won't laid to rest facing Mecca which is what all Muslims want. So in a way, they did bury him according to tradition and still deny him what all Muslims want.
 
"We killed Bin Laden, but he won. The US today is dimmed, morally & financially bankrupted by our reactions to his works." - John Perry Barlow
 
maidos said:
I still think osama should at least deserve a trial instead of getting shot instantly. why is that a difference compare to saddam who did get a trial?
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I don't think you can compare this case with Saddam, who had been the leader of Iraq, caught in Iraq and handed over to the interim Iraqi government to stand trial for crimes committed in Iraq and sentenced accordingly.

Here was an international terrorist, subject to US action in Pakistan, mostly likely without the knowledge of the Pakistan authorities as they have been suspected of leaks over previous operations, it was a quick in and out operation, and no doubt there was a gunfight, special forces are trained to kill not arrest, and in the timescale here that was probably the only & best option.

also im not even sure if its really true that osama is dead. They have not produced any real evidence for the public that it is him. And doing a DNA testing when after the body get dumped in the water why? its a first time ever ive heard the us military prioritizing other peoples traidtion over their one decade manhunt that costed them trillion of dollars. How can they do the dna testing anyway, do they actually have osamas dna in other to crossreference with the man they shot in pakistan?
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I doubt he's alive, otherwise we would very quickly have a video released to prove it and to show the US is lying, there's no way the US would risk that. I am also sure there will be evidence produced in time, this story is only a few hours old.

What do you suggest should have been done with the body? I doubt any country would want it, feeding him to the fish seems the most logical option to me.

Re-DNA, it's reported they have DNA from some of his family, so doing a match wouldn't be a problem.

Not that any of this, or any amount of evidence is ever going to stop the conspiraloons.

Out goes the old conspiracy theory that he was dead, in comes the new conspiracy theory that he's alive, same conspiraloons, different day. :D
 
Just in:

So, the most wanted terrorist in the world and his sons are dead.

Brings a whole new meaning to that innocent phrase 'taking out the bins.'

:D
 
DoctorWatsOn said:
Just in:

So, the most wanted terrorist in the world and his sons are dead.

Brings a whole new meaning to that innocent phrase 'taking out the bins.'
:D
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Vodkaholic said:
When I see pic's of him dead I'll belive it

This best one I find is this

Al Jazeera English: Live Stream

Always on with great news they also seem to cut all the bull**** out
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I'm pretty sure they didn't stop to take a pic before they wrapped him up and threw his ass overboard.
(ooops sorry, I really am being bad. I need more sleep)
 
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