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No obvious way to access "Your Account"

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by Brogan, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Due to the recent changes, there is now no obvious way to access "Your Account".

    I know that all I have to do is hover over my username and click one of the options in the menu and it will take me to that part of my account.
    However, new members and those less savvy might get confused by this.

    Is it worth just putting a "Your Account" link at the top of the drop down menu, just underneath "Sign out" for example?
     
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  2. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    When you click on your username, after the menu drops down, click on your username inside the menu.
     
  3. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    That takes me to this page: http://xenforo.com/community/members/brogan.521/

    Whereas "My Account" is this page: http://xenforo.com/community/settings/

    Edit: I've just realised if you click twice on the username in the navigation bar (after the drop down menu has appeared) then it does open the "My Account" page.
     
  4. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    There isn't really a 'My Account' page as such - it just happens to open on the alerts page. Pretty much any of the links under the username menu are entry points to 'My Account'.
     
  5. Lawrence

    Lawrence Well-Known Member

  6. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    As Brogan pointed out, this is very confusing to novice computer users. I prefer to have simple links to Settings, My Profile and Private Messages pages in the Navbar.

    Hopefully the template system will us to easily remove the entire Navbar code and replace it with a simple Navbar like we had in vB3.
     
  7. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    The template system allows anything and everything.

    On the other hand, I'm not sure how a menu that is labelled with your own name could be less intuitive than the cryptic 'User CP' text that was used in vBulletin 3.
     
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  8. Floris

    Floris Guest

    To be honest, on my community I think we will have the dropdown's first option in the list be a link called: Settings
    So they can go that their account page. Simply because it's what users are expecting.

    An "account" dropdown that's additional, does not make sense to me.
     
  9. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I've added a link into 'Preferences' in the white section of the [Your Name] menu to make this a little more apparent.
     
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  10. Floris

    Floris Guest

    Thanks Kier, looks nice, and will do just fine. (I will probably still just rename it to settings at some point hehe)
     
  11. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Great!
    Thanks Kier.
     
  12. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    It does exactly the same thing as the 'Preferences' link about 100 pixels below it of course ;)
     
  13. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Indeed :D

    But for noobs and less savvy users it might be a more obvious way to reach their account page.

    Besides which, as Floris has intimated above, a simple template edit will now allow forum owners to replace that with any link they like if they so wish.
     
  14. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    :confused: I double click the username usually, and it takes me to settings.
     
  15. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    A name is just as bad as 'User CP'. People are always looking for Settings or Account. I already know my name - I don't need the system to remind me. ;)

    Settings or Account makes it obvious to the user.
     
  16. Brandon_R

    Brandon_R Guest

    it's easy to click Sign Out because it's right under preferences and has no confirmation :confused:
     
  17. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    The last time this was discussed, Kier said it wasn't an issue as signing out can easily be recovered without affecting your browsing or which threads are marked as read, etc.

    The behaviour is the same with the other "Sign out" link on the main navbar.
     
  18. Enigma

    Enigma Well-Known Member

    I actually remember the very first time I used vBulletin and I was quite perplexed by the term "User CP". After I figured out what CP stood for, I still always thought it should say "Account" or something more understandable at first glance. /off topic.
     
  19. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    I was one of those people who suggested to completely dish the old Your Account menu option on the left side of the bar. Which is a good decision. However, since it is gone, I agree with your point actually. Myself I had the same experience the other day... it was not clear enough how I could actually go to 'My Account' now and since I always try to look through the eyes of the enduser (my memberbase), I am convinced it will be a bit 'unclear' for more people.

    This is not intuitive enough. You have to know you can click twice... and in my book I have this rule: if I have to know something to be able to do something, it is not intuitive :).

    I thought... that there has to be some kind of [fieldset] maybe or horizontal tag inside the big username dropdown to show the enduser these options there are part of Your Account. Until...

    ... this. Thank you. (will play with it a while and see how it feels/works)
     
  20. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    So, I did play with it for 5 seconds. And I realized... it is a bit of a redundant link isn't it? Because...

    ... exactly this reason.

    Kier, why not call this link 'Your Account' and bring the user to exactly that page? : http://xenforo.com/community/settings/

    Then the problem of redudancy is solved and we have at the same time the solution to go straight to 'Your Account', which is what we need I believe.
     

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