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Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by RoyalRumble, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. RoyalRumble

    RoyalRumble Active Member

    On vBulletin, users were able to select a preference on how many posts per page would be displayed per thread.

    Since migration this is the only area my members have found disappointing - The standard is 20, as a compromise to my members I've set it to 30 but it's never going to please everyone.

    I recall reading on here (I searched but couldn't find it again) an explanation as to why this was from a XF moderator and why any effort to provide user preference would not be good.

    With that, I'm after some advice really. Why is it XenForo doesn't allow what would seem a basic feature?
     
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  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  3. RoyalRumble

    RoyalRumble Active Member

  4. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

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  5. Valhalla

    Valhalla Well-Known Member

    If it cannot be changed from a user's point of view, is it advisable to decide upon a value site-wide and then remain with it indefinitely?

    (i.e. Would changing that value from Admin have any unexpected results for already-existing links? I think the answer is 'no', but maybe.)
     
  6. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, it would affect existing links posted for the same reasons I posted above.
     
  7. RoyalRumble

    RoyalRumble Active Member

    Ah damn. I originally set it at 30 on install, not noticing the upgrade to 1.3 reverts it to 20. Hopefully the few days at 20 hasn't caused issue.
     
  8. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Options shouldn't reset when upgrading.

    Are you sure you were looking at the correct option?
    There are two - one for threads per page and one for posts per page.
     
  9. feldon30

    feldon30 Well-Known Member

    I've commented about this before (and then been soundly railed against for my negativity) but it's one of the very few design flaws in XenForo -- linking requires a fixed number of posts per page, thus this can never be provided as a user or admin option. XenForo is the only forum software I know that operates this way.
     
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  10. Valhalla

    Valhalla Well-Known Member

    I agree, but I'm unsure how it could be improved.

    At least with this decision (providing posts per page is kept the same all of the time) any link you refer to would be the same for everyone, whereas, if it were somehow possible to adjust it as an individual it would still need to refer to 'page' in the URL.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2014
  11. Jeremy

    Jeremy XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    ACP -> Options -> Threads, Discussions, and Conversations -> Messages Per Page.

    It exists as an admin option; not a user option due to the reasons already stated.
     
  12. feldon30

    feldon30 Well-Known Member

    We're pretty much locked in. Unless XenForo changed their page numbering from /page-1/ to /start/20/ in every thread link, I'm not sure there not really any way to allow it as a user option. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it's a design decision that Kier and Mike made early on that has sent us down a certain path. One of their few missteps IMO.
     
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  13. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    How does other forum software, like vBulletin, that does allow the user to change it do it?
     
  14. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    Trough user control panel
     
  15. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    No, I mean, regarding this comment. :)

     
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  16. Daniel Hood

    Daniel Hood Well-Known Member

    https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=10385&start=1800
     
  17. Valhalla

    Valhalla Well-Known Member

    It does seem to make more sense to refer to post number, rather than the more superficial page number.
     
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  18. Daniel Hood

    Daniel Hood Well-Known Member

    you can link to posts now, maybe this should be more commonly done:

    http://xenforo.com/community/posts/736214

    it then redirects to the more seo friendly version of the url which contains the page number.
     
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  19. Valhalla

    Valhalla Well-Known Member

    But how about the 'number' (#) of a post in a discussion? Is there a way to link to "the fifth post" in a discussion, for example?

    (Maybe we can do that already?)
     
  20. TeflonDon

    TeflonDon Well-Known Member

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