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Looking For An Offshore VPS Under $40 a Month

#22
Some guides I've started out reading.

Best Free Control Panel Blog Post: http://www.ruchirablog.com/free-server-control-panel/

He says to download Putty: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

and Kluxo: http://lxcenter.org/

Kluxo is a good substitution for cPanel according to this post: http://www.webhostpark.com/free-hosting-control-panel/

There are a ton of great how to's in Linode's Library (open to the public, you don't need to be a customer) http://library.linode.com/.

Webmin (http://webmin.com/) is still a great control panel and easy to setup. http://library.linode.com/web-applications/control-panels/webmin/installing-webmin

Edit---

Looks like ChemicalKicks beat me to mentioning the linode library :p
 

Marc

Well-known member
#23
I posted I need a server administrator on my facebook and this chick I dated a couple years ago hit me up and told me she could do it. I forgot that she was a server administrator. Man I'm glad we left on good terms or she wouldn't have offered.
And potential to get laid out of it..... Result! .... Why are my tech deals never that good? :p
 

DRE

Well-known member
#24
Actually if you're looking for guides go and checkout the Linode library

http://library.linode.com/

I honestly wouldn't bother with a cPanel of any variety.
Thanks man. I didn't know all this stuff would take so long to set up. I changed my password with passwd and then ran the update command yum update I actually watched a 10 min vid by some dude named Guvnor that went through the Linode control panel but their stuff didn't look anything like what I see in my current vps control panel. I bookmarked your link though thank you very much.

I am used to cPanel because that's what I've been using for a year and a half. Are you saying you don't like cpanel because you'd rather do stuff through another program or do you mean the command line and if the command line through what program?
 

DRE

Well-known member
#25
There are a ton of great how to's in Linode's Library (open to the public, you don't need to be a customer) http://library.linode.com/.

Webmin (http://webmin.com/) is still a great control panel and easy to setup. http://library.linode.com/web-applications/control-panels/webmin/installing-webmin

Edit---

Looks like ChemicalKicks beat me to mentioning the linode library :p
I'm doing research on webadmin vs kloxo, thanks.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1137755

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1132117

Most people in the thread above say VirtualAdmin/Webmin > Kloxo so I'll install that.
 

ChemicalKicks

Well-known member
#27
Thanks man. I didn't know all this stuff would take so long to set up. I changed my password with passwd and then ran the update command yum update I actually watched a 10 min vid by some dude named Guvnor that went through the Linode control panel but their stuff didn't look anything like what I see in my current vps control panel. I bookmarked your link though thank you very much.

I am used to cPanel because that's what I've been using for a year and a half. Are you saying you don't like cpanel because you'd rather do stuff through another program or do you mean the command line and if the command line through what program?
You're welcome.

I just use Putty and connect to the server via SSH, it's peachy. I used to like using my cPanel on my old shared host but it adds a lot of overhead which means you need to spend more on ram. Honestly it's all gravy though and you'll probably enjoy learning.

What I did was got a Linode while I was still using my shared host, spent a week learning how to set up the server so that I could host a website. Literally just followed the guide over and over and every time I got it up and running I would just wipe it and redeploy the server again. Once I was confident setting the server up I practiced migrating the site for another few days, this was a bit more tricky but practice makes perfect.

You will undoubtedly have a few OMG what have I done moments but you work through them and at the end of it all youve learned something. It's fun.

Protip... Fork out the extra couple of bucks for backups. I haven't had to restore from a backup yet but it puts your mind at ease and that's priceless.
 

bambua

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#28
Personally I think control panels add a layer of complexity to a server not remove it. It's worth your time if you're going to run a site to learn how to administer your server. Plus you will end up with a leaner server that functions better, and if you set it up yourself/with someone else you'll learn how to do it rather then just having a control panel do it for you.

I started with Linux as a server about 5-6 years ago and it really doesn't take a long time to learn.
 

ChemicalKicks

Well-known member
#31
Yeah I wasn't really talking about that control panel, I more meant like the WHM/Cpanel or webmin or whatever the flavor of the year is.
Sorry my comment was directed towards T8L :)

@T8L

Take a look at this guide, this looks long right? http://library.linode.com/lemp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid after some practice you can complete the whole setup in less than 10 minutes. It's not a long a process as you think once you're confident and are familiar with the language and steps.
 

DRE

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#32
You're welcome.

I just use Putty and connect to the server via SSH, it's peachy. I used to like using my cPanel on my old shared host but it adds a lot of overhead which means you need to spend more on ram. Honestly it's all gravy though and you'll probably enjoy learning.

What I did was got a Linode while I was still using my shared host, spent a week learning how to set up the server so that I could host a website. Literally just followed the guide over and over and every time I got it up and running I would just wipe it and redeploy the server again. Once I was confident setting the server up I practiced migrating the site for another few days, this was a bit more tricky but practice makes perfect.

You will undoubtedly have a few OMG what have I done moments but you work through them and at the end of it all youve learned something. It's fun.

Protip... Fork out the extra couple of bucks for backups. I haven't had to restore from a backup yet but it puts your mind at ease and that's priceless.
I will need a control panel since I'm a beginner that has to spend more time on other website related stuff such as my wiki. I'm just trying to learn the basics right now and when I have the time I'll study more advanced stuff because I'm genuinely curious.

I've backed up my site through cPanel before. Is there a difference between that way and what your talking about?
 

DRE

Well-known member
#33
Sorry my comment was directed towards T8L :)

@T8L

Take a look at this guide, this looks long right? http://library.linode.com/lemp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid after some practice you can complete the whole setup in less than 10 minutes. It's not a long a process as you think once you're confident and are familiar with the language and steps.
Thanks!
I have Ubuntu Studio Lucid 10.04 installed as a partition on my computer that I use whenever my Windows 7 crashes or is jacked up beyond belief. I had mainly installed it to see what I could do with the video editing programs on there back when I used to edit music videos as a hobby. I also installed some version of Linux on my og PS3 but I never use any of those OS. I just did all that because I was curious and wanted a back up. So if I can install Linux then I'll probably do some of what you were talking about earlier in the thread. I just procrastinate and forget sometimes. I didn't go to school for this or study linux or any of that. Just curious. I don't want to delve too deep into any of that stuff or I won't get anything else done.
 

ChemicalKicks

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#34
Thanks!
I have Ubuntu Studio Lucid 10.04 installed as a partition on my computer that I use whenever my Windows 7 crashes or is jacked up beyond belief. I had mainly installed it to see what I could do with the video editing programs on there back when I used to edit music videos as a hobby. I also installed some version of Linux on my og PS3 but I never use any of those OS. I just did all that because I was curious and wanted a back up. So if I can install Linux then I'll probably do some of what you were talking about earlier in the thread. I just procrastinate and forget sometimes. I didn't go to school for this or study linux or any of that. Just curious. I don't want to delve too deep into any of that stuff or I won't get anything else done.
Hey don't worry. You think I really know the fundamentals of how Linux works, I don't, I have no clue. I never paid much attention to school either, practice makes perfect. I know what you mean though since making the switch to un-managed VPS I have spent literally days researching stuff out to achieve whatever it was that I needed wanted to do.

Tell you what, go and rent one Linode, that'll cost you $20 without backups. Linode will give you all of your money back if you cancel before 7 complete days are up. That's risk free, I bet you $20 you won't cancel.
 

ChemicalKicks

Well-known member
#35
I've backed up my site through cPanel before. Is there a difference between that way and what your talking about?
There isn't much of a difference I guess really, my VPS gets backed up every 24 hours automatically, I've set the backup to run at 3am local time to me which means there's minimum disruption to the site while that's happening, this is all set up via the Linode control panel.
 

DRE

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#37
Hey don't worry. You think I really know the fundamentals of how Linux works, I don't, I have no clue. I never paid much attention to school either, practice makes perfect. I know what you mean though since making the switch to un-managed VPS I have spent literally days researching stuff out to achieve whatever it was that I needed wanted to do.

Tell you what, go and rent one Linode, that'll cost you $20 without backups. Linode will give you all of your money back if you cancel before 7 complete days are up. That's risk free, I bet you $20 you won't cancel.
It's starting to sound like you did all of that practicing just so that you could be comfortable with the command line. I don't want anything to do with it because it requires me to google commands like how I am right now, trying to figure out how to lock down ssh and prevent logins using root username. etc. Google google google. Google google google. Then when you find something that looks like it works, double-check in google. lol
There isn't much of a difference I guess really, my VPS gets backed up every 24 hours automatically, I've set the backup to run at 3am local time to me which means there's minimum disruption to the site while that's happening, this is all set up via the Linode control panel.
You installed a program through the command line and even set it to run at that time through control panel? See that's another thing, with no UI, it would require me to do like you did and practice a lot just to memorize commands and then on top of that, I don't like going into different directories just to edit a file when I can't even see it as a folder in front of me like in File Manager for cPanel for instance.
This is all the control panel you'll ever need.

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