Kier I blamed you!
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Dark Matter
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To get things in a little more perspective here, bring things back down to Earth from planet Pluto. You can pay £1000's easily for a top decent "Roach Pole" used for the fishing hobby. More than that Cannon body camera of Kiers cost.
This one cost £1200 http://www.tackleup.com/daiwa-poles/daiwa-connoiseur-g20-16m-pole.html
And how about this one coming in at just over £2000 http://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/store/map-parabolix-sti-competition-pole-length-mtrs-16mtrs
This one cost £1200 http://www.tackleup.com/daiwa-poles/daiwa-connoiseur-g20-16m-pole.html
And how about this one coming in at just over £2000 http://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/store/map-parabolix-sti-competition-pole-length-mtrs-16mtrs
Digital Doctor
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Shelley ... I don't have a jealous bone in my body.Coming from the expert, touch of the green eyed monster I'd say.
You've really missed the mark here.
As well, if you read carefully .... I was defending a photographer's right to want ... not need. "It's not a matter of need, it's want!". An extremely envious "green-eyed" monster would be more likely to question a person's excesses than defend them.
On a more thankful note, it seems you are really caring about my unmet needs. That I might resort to jealousy to deal with my painful unmet desires.
I do have good news on this matter. I have a wonderful wife, son, and life !
Thanks for caring so much !!!!!!
Shelley
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Fair enough.
If I want to design, taking on a specialized job that i can't do in my primary program/software I can use third party add-ons, filters so that the solution I'm out putting is what is needed using all these 3rd party add-ons. To the average person, they would say, "you don't need all that stuff" to the expert, the person with at least 2lbs in his head would know that specialized work requires specialized equipment.
To the average person, many specialized jobs are overlooked by the output (quality) where to an expert in that field they know the tools, add-ons they use add that little extra to the final product. I guess it's a case of educating people whom are not savy with specialized subjects/equipment whatever it may be. I know nothing about photography, but I suspect anyone purchasing equipment ranging into the thousands they know that each add-on (lenses) as it's special functionality to get that 100% desired result.
And, Not interested in your personal life.
Digital Doctor
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Dark Matter
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But your missing one important thing, Kier doesn't do photography as professional job.
Kim
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Yes, he does.
It obviously is not his only professional job, but he does do professional photography.
Digital Doctor
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I finally have learned why people want *IGNORE THREAD* features in Xenforo.
This thread taught me why !!!
Thanks Forsaken and the usual reply posse
This thread taught me why !!!
Thanks Forsaken and the usual reply posse
Dark Matter
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It's his hobby, passion. That much is very clear and there's a difference between the two. You can still make money from a hobby, but it doesn't make it a professional job. That's something you do each and every day, a full time job, like he does creating XenForo.
My cousin shoots weddings but it's not his job and he'd be the first person to say it's not.
Forsaken
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He was making a reply to other people who have started up photography as a hobby. He does not state he is a hobbyist photographer, he only replies "expensive hobby indeed", as he does photography, and has spent a large amount of money on it.
So, again, he never stated he was a hobbyist.
Dark Matter
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There must be two Kiers Darby's knocking around then, one creating XenForo, the other working full time as a Photographer. Amazing, no wonder he's loaded! 
John
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Nice equipment Kier...all of which would be useless if the person behind the lens was not gifted in the art as you are.
Unfortunately this thread is a prime example of why I find myself coming here less and less. Why people feel the need to argue at any little thing and not just let it go is beyond me but it really is causing this place to be no fun to visit any longer. I can't even wander into what should be a friendly chat about photography without leaving it with my blood pressure up.
Unfortunately this thread is a prime example of why I find myself coming here less and less. Why people feel the need to argue at any little thing and not just let it go is beyond me but it really is causing this place to be no fun to visit any longer. I can't even wander into what should be a friendly chat about photography without leaving it with my blood pressure up.
jmurrayhead
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Threads like this make me happy I have a life outside of the forum-world. To the OP...enjoy it, have fun with it, er...whatever.
Brandon Sheley
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I can take some pretty good pictures of my son with my phone 
I'd like to have a nice camera like the ones you guys are talking about someday, but it's not high on my list.
I'd like to have a nice camera like the ones you guys are talking about someday, but it's not high on my list.
User
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I am not an expert, or even a novice, in photography, but the retail value of that collection is probably in the 30-ish thousand dollars. I also don't know how much photographers make, but I can imagine that the "million dollar shot" (no, not the money shot, you pervs!) is pretty damn rare. So for the average professional it would take time (years?) to get a return on investment on those, though I suppose one could argue that they don't depreciate much, still, unless you bring in the cost of the equipment it's really a hobby and not work.
Some people build muscle cars others buy photo equipment, not much of a difference really, there are lots of common hobbies where it's easy to burn 30+k over time. What's the point of life if not to buy some toys to enjoy in one's spare time.
On the contrary, the average wedding shoot will bring in well in excess of $1,000 and sometimes a lot more. When working as a professional photographer (by which I mean being paid to work, rather than any comment on primary occupation) it does not take forever to recover the equipment outlay.
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