Steve, if you read this... keep your head high mate. You were one person who was really holding together vBulletin IMHO. You were the voice of reason at vBulletin, the person to turn towards for help when something was wrong, and regardless how good or bad the issue, you always handled things professionally from my experience. Don't let VB kick you for your effort... I have read a lot of comments from people who think similar to myself... you were the rock at VB that they've now lost to their detriment. I hope you and your wife well in whatever endeavor you envelope yourself within now.