just ate raw eggs

[Forsaken]

How does that work with the cheesecakes? Grin and bear it?

I can eat processed cheese, it's just milk that really messes with me.

Though almond milk can actually replace milk in most recipes (I generally replace milk with it when baking).

 

[Onimua]

I've been drinking Almond milk since I was in middle school because I'm lactose intolerant.

Way better with cereal or oatmeal compared to cow milk or soy milk.

I drank Lactaid milk for a while but that still caused problems.

I've tried several kinds, but the Blue Diamond vanilla almond milk is my favorite so far.

 

[Jake Bunce]

Need to get one of those nut bags (inb4 nut sack) to drain it.

I got this one from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Nut-Milk-Bag-...1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1334260605&sr=1-1-catcorr

Works great.

 

[Jake Bunce]

kale + cilantro + arugula + cucumber + garlic cloves + almond milk

Feels great. Tastes awful.

 

[Digital Doctor]

I got this one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Nut-Milk-Bag
Works great.

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[Forsaken]

I drank Lactaid milk for a while but that still caused problems.

I've tried several kinds, but the Blue Diamond vanilla almond milk is my favorite so far.

Thats the type I use; I just wish it lasted longer after you open it.

 

[Jake Bunce]

I think the almond milk is making me sick. I think it's because I am using pasteurized almonds which destroys all of the enzymes. Without enzymes some people have trouble digesting the protein which can accumulate in the body and cause allergy-type symptoms (so I read). Coincidentally, the morning after my first glass of almond milk I was all stuffy and sneezing. The symptoms got progressively worse as I continued to drink it. I just switched back to pure veggie juice and I feel much better.

I have some unpasteurized almonds on order from a farmer. You have to order them direct because California has laws requiring all almonds to be pasteurized.

 

[AzzidReign]

I'm pretty sure all nuts have enzyme inhibitors in them though...so you actually have to soak your nuts in water over night ( lol no dirty thoughts now) so it washes away the inhibitors allowing the enzymes to actually work when you consume them. This vastly reduces the shelf life of them so be sure to only soak enough to last 3-5 days.

The inhibitors are likely the things causing your irritability/symptoms...although, I think I've always had access to raw, unpasteurized nuts so I don't know the difference.

 

[Jake Bunce]

I'm pretty sure all nuts have enzyme inhibitors in them though...so you actually have to soak your nuts in water over night censored: lol no dirty thoughts now) so it washes away the inhibitors allowing the enzymes to actually work when you consume them. This vastly reduces the shelf life of them so be sure to only soak enough to last 3-5 days.

The inhibitors are likely the things causing your irritability/symptoms...although, I think I've always had access to raw, unpasteurized nuts so I don't know the difference.

I do soak them. Unfortunately pasteurization kills the enzymes, inhibited or not.

 

[mrGTB]

Surprised you eat nuts Jake, they are height in cholesterol. My dad used to eat them all the time, loves them. Then his doctor said STOP, never touches them now!

Never mind, cheese it was.

 

[Jake Bunce]

I started mixing this product in with my green juice:

http://NUTRITIONAL-ESSENTIALS.life-regenerator.com (referral link, crediting Dan)

It is recommended by Dan and Lou to fill in the gaps left by a raw food diet. This powder provides essential vitamins and aminos. I have found that it makes my drinks much more satiating and gives me more energy.

 

[Jake Bunce]

The big sales pitch for raw foods is that they are enzyme-active. When you cook food it kills the enzymes which forces your pancreas to produce the needed enzymes to digest the food. If for some reason your pancreas isn't up to the task then you will have all sorts of problems relating to undigested food floating around your system. It is worth noting that our bodies produce less enzymes as we age.

With this in mind I started researching enzyme supplements. I started taking enzyme supplements while eating a normal "cooked food" diet and I feel really good. Then I started mega-dosing on enzymes and found that within just a few days it cleared up several skin and oral conditions of mine. The most noticeable difference is that my tongue is now super clean, whereas before it always had a film on it no matter how much I brushed it. My research has revealed several testimonials from people who have cured themselves of chronic medical conditions by mega-dosing on enzyme supplements. These conditions are mostly of the inflammatory and auto-immune variety since the immune system attacks undigested food in the blood and tissues which also creates a friendly environment for pathogens further stressing the immune system. The extra enzymes allow your body to metabolize undigested food that causes problems.

I am currently using these enzymes which are one of the more expensive complexes:

http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natura...ef=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1335265886&sr=1-1

This is the less expensive product from the same brand, but it has less variety of enzymes:

http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natura...ef=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1335266444&sr=1-1

I take 20 capsules a day (mega-dosing), between and during meals. Between meals is supposed to be best for cleaning your system.

Dan and Lou talk a lot about enzymes. I know Dan has experimented with mega-dosing himself.

 

[mrGTB]

I do suffer at times with some types of foods eaten, I put it down to working nights for over 15 years and it effecting my digestive system (maybe). But did suffer badly with it when working nights. I've never been able to pinpoint what kicks it off when it happens exactly, neither has the doctor when seeing him about it. But I can eat something and later I start getting a really bad nagging pain that seems to start the other side of my heart in the same area below the top rib and goes right through to my back. Soon after I start feeling sick and bring everything eaten back up again and the pain will then go about an hour later, but only if I bring all food eaten back up, otherwise the pain is there for hours and pain killers make no difference getting rid of it!

I've had it for many years, more than 10 now. And only happens rarely, seems to be related to certain food types, especially dairy products like eggs and butter, cooking fat - all which I don't touch anymore, same with bread (unless being toast), even rice can kick it off. These days now I limit what I eat each day, I never stuff my face with loads of food, as that's just asking for it to start off. Also noticed if eating when feeling very tired and run-down, stopped up too late and suffering from lack of sleep adds to it happening.

It seems similar to you Jake, that at times my body isn't able to break down certain foods and as a result makes me want to bring it all back-up being sick once the pain kicks in beforehand first. Really odd and never know what will suddenly trigger it at times to be honest. My mum said she had the same thing and it was STONES causing it, she had hers out and never suffered again from it. But my doctor ruled that one out, saying the pain wasn't even in the right area to be that.

 

[Jake Bunce]

It seems similar to you Jake, that at times my body isn't able to break down certain foods and as a result makes me want to bring it all back-up being sick once the pain kicks in beforehand first. Really odd and never know what will suddenly trigger it at times to be honest. My mum said she had the same thing and it was STONES causing it, she had hers out and never suffered again from it. But my doctor ruled that one out, saying the pain wasn't even in the right area to be that.

If you will forgive the suggestions... I am sort of an encyclopedia of supplements.

You might try the following:

1) Digestive enzymes (like what I posted about).

2) HCl supplements. Here are two that I like:

http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Process-8500-Zypan/dp/B0006IIEUY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natura...R81K/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1325670990&sr=8-3

Note that heartburn usually means you need more HCl (stomach acid), contrary to what doctors will tell you. And definitely don't take antacids.

3) Probiotics. I like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Renew-Life-Ul...ef=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1335270626&sr=1-2

This is usually purchased refrigerated from a health food store, not online.

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I have experienced potent results from these 3 things.

 

[AzzidReign]

Proteolytic enzymes are great between meals to help with inflammation. Megadosing helps when you are trying to speed up the recovery of a certain condition. I don't know about the enzyme supplements you linked to but I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, which was created by Dr. Loomis. He was one of the first to start using enzymes to cure certain ailments and now it's to the point where his product line contains certain enzymes and herbs that specifically help the body heal certain diseases. He also has broad scope enzymes which looks like what one of the links are you posted.

And I didn't realize that Standard Process sold online to people. I always thought that people had to go through a physician to get them. Either way, Zypan is a good product to take to help with heart burn.

@mrGTB, when you say the "other side of your heart", do you mean on your back on the left? Or do you mean on the right on your chest? I really didn't understand your description of what happens. Sort of sounds like it starts on your right side of the chest and it's like you are being stabbed with a knife through to the back. Top rib? Just below your collar bone? That's an odd place for something like this to occur, especially with food. Or do you mean the bottom rib, closest to your belly?

Do you know how much later it is until you start feeling bad? Maybe you ought to get checked out by someone other than an MD. They typically only know "symptom = med" and have a hard time with normal physiology and getting the body back to that. I'd recommend finding a doc that is a certified Internal Health Specialist. You can go here to try to find a practitioner in your area. If you could find someone that also does CMRT (use to be called Bloodless surgery in the event you find an old chiropractor) or AK (AK does a lot of CMRT, luckily, I know both and it helps me with many cases)...these techniques will help your body start functioning properly (especially the digestive tract).

 

[mrGTB]

@mrGTB, when you say the "other side of your heart", do you mean on your back on the left? Or do you mean on the right on your chest? I really didn't understand your description of what happens.

Follow the red arrow, but probably a little higher up than that just below the bust (chest) really. By "back", I meant the pain can travel from front-side right into into the back itself and in same position.

Do you know how much later it is until you start feeling bad? Maybe you ought to get checked out by someone other than an MD. They typically only know "symptom = med" and have a hard time with normal physiology and getting the body back to that. I'd recommend finding a doc that is a certified Internal Health Specialist. You can go here to try to find a practitioner in your area. If you could find someone that also does CMRT (use to be called Bloodless surgery in the event you find an old chiropractor) or AK (AK does a lot of CMRT, luckily, I know both and it helps me with many cases)...these techniques will help your body start functioning properly (especially the digestive tract).

I know 1-2 hours before the pain starts, because at first you feel uncomfortable in that side area, that's the only way I can describe it really, feels a little bloated there. I just know, mainly because I'm used to it now and can tell right away if the onset of it is starting before the pain kicks in later. I should stress this is not something I get on a weekly bases or anything like that, can go months without it happening now mainly because I'm more careful. But then out the blue it just does it after eating something and tried to pinpoint what it is. But it can happen with some meals, then eating the same meal again later it doesn't happen.

But over time I've been able to draw up a list of what seem like high risk foods prone to kicking it off, which I mentioned above in my previous post. Eggs, I avoid boiled or fried eggs (full stop). But I love them, I will still eat scrambled, but very rarely do I eat eggs at all now and will avoid them. Fried food, as in frying something with cooking fat. I think it's the fat itself so avoid it. I sound like a walking disaster area, but it's not as bad like it sounds and happens rarely to me. If anything I eat more healthy now!

 

[mmoore5553]

MAN BOOBS ..okay I am immature lol

 

[mrGTB]

Not easy drawing with a mouse

 

[AzzidReign]

Follow the red arrow, but probably a little higher up than that just below the bust (chest) really. By "back", I meant the pain can travel from front-side right into into the back itself and in same position.

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I know 1-2 hours before the pain starts, because at first you feel uncomfortable in that side area, that's the only way I can describe it really, feels a little bloated there. I just know, mainly because I'm used to it now and can tell right away if the onset of it is starting before the pain kicks in later. I should stress this is not something I get on a weekly bases or anything like that, can go months without it happening now mainly because I'm more careful. But then out the blue it just does it after eating something and tried to pinpoint what it is. But it can happen with some meals, then eating the same meal again later it doesn't happen.

But over time I've been able to draw up a list of what seem like high risk foods prone to kicking it off, which I mentioned above in my previous post. Eggs, I avoid boiled or fried eggs (full stop). But I love them, I will still eat scrambled, but very rarely do I eat eggs at all now and will avoid them. Fried food, as in frying something with cooking fat. I think it's the fat itself so avoid it. I sound like a walking disaster area, but it's not as bad like it sounds and happens rarely to me. If anything I eat more healthy now!

You know, it is sounding like the gallbladder is more and more the issue with what you are saying. Fatty foods will stress the gall bladder if it's not working properly. I don't want to diagnose you over the internet but I would definitely try to find a doc that does functional nutrition and digestive physiology to possibly pin point it better for you. I could go on suggesting certain supplements and enzymes that will likely help but without physically examining you, it's almost like playing darts in the dark. You know about where the target is, but when you turn on the lights and look, you were way off

I would suggest trying to go on a raw fruit and veggie diet (but stay away from starchy veggies and high glycemic fruits). Do at least 50% raw. You can easily do this if you get a nice blender and blend your fruits and veggies. This will allow your body some rest time and with getting raw veggies and fruits in you, your body will start healing. In fact, you may start feeling so good that you won't want to go back to eating the way you use to or are eating right now (idk what your diet is like...).

I've been on a >51% raw, <49% cooked for almost 2 weeks now. I feel great, losing weight and losing inches, certain symptoms are going away, etc. I always knew to do this, just never had the kick in the arse until I read this book, which explains how certain foods influence certain hormones (ones you don't typically want since you are constantly stimulating those) and which foods stimulate and influence the hormones you want your body to create. It's really put a new view on foods for me...rather than the "I know this is bad, but I can have it just this once and be fine". That once will affect the body 48-72 hours later sadly. And by that time, I would say the same thing about something else. All the while, trying to eat healthier....these bad decisions kept me in a ill health state. So it was very eye opening to read the more functional aspect of nutrition and hormones as in school....we just get the crap medical aspect which does us little to know good in practice or when trying to help patients.

Everything we put in our mouths affects our health in one way or another. So you have to ask yourself when eating "Does this promote health? Or promote sickness?"

 

[Jos]

almost vomited

I forgot to hardboil more eggs last night, so I decided to try them raw. Quite unpleasant I must say.

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It's so weird how a small thing like Sylvester Stallone drinking those eggs in Rocky sparked such a worldwide debate about raw eggs! I always think, what's the point in having them raw? It's unpleasant and if you really are that desperate for an intake of protein, just get a protein shake. It won't have all the cholesterol that 4 - 5 raw eggs has either. Or just have them cooked, as they taste tonnes better!

Besides, eating them raw is just going to increase the risk of contracting salmonella and tonnes of other stuff, which I'm sure no-one wants. I found this article which goes into a bit more detail about some of the health risks - http://www.iwantasixpack.com/is-eating-raw-eggs-safe/