just ate raw eggs
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AdamD
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Some interesting info on Raw vs Cooked eggs here - http://www.answerfitness.com/250/are-raw-eggs-safe-to-eat-fitness-nerd/
Doesn't seem like much of a benefit to eating them raw, imo.
Doesn't seem like much of a benefit to eating them raw, imo.
AzzidReign
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So this "geek" gives 1 example about vitamin absorption and jumps on the salmonella train. While I've never heard of his argument about Avidin, so I can't really say whether I believe he's right or wrong...I don't do much research on eggs.
But he mentions "whey protein" which I would also lump "Casein protein" in there. These are synthetically made up, with synthetic added components to it. The body looks and reacts to synthetic products much differently than natural products. It may give added benefits at the start, but over time, other problems will occur.
I don't like studies TBH. They don't give real world application IMO. And most of the studies are done on eggs that are from farm raised, growth hormone injected, estrogen injected, antibiotic injected, and grain fed chickens. These do not compare to those that are range free, non-grain diet fed, non-injected chicken eggs. And there is no study (like I said, I don't like studies) that I know of that actually uses the GOOD eggs as opposed to the ill-health ones.
You have to do what you think sounds right after researching. These studies don't even go into the health of their participants, they just lump them all in to one group. What if they are HCl (stomach acid) deficient? What if they never eat greens, veggies or fruits, won't that change how things are digested (answer is yes)? Though this link you provide, claims these are only problems with "large quantities"...what is "large"? Is it 1 egg a day? Is it 20 eggs a week? What is large? They really don't provide much information on this page, nor provide more articles on digestion physiology to back up their claims.
I still don't know about the argument with the protein being more bioavailable when cooked (eggs). When heated, you lose the active enzymes in the eggs (as well as anything cooked). You are also changing the structure of the protein. They claim it's more easily digestible, BUT, how does the body utilize it differently when it is absorbed? Can the body not use it because it's now denatured or modified? Do you get partial digestion of it, leaving those proteins floating around in your blood, causing allergies and auto-immune diseases (and a question that I'd like to know, people who are allergic to eggs, are they allergic to both cooked and uncooked?? that would be nice to know)? With raw, do the enzymes help the digestion and utilization of the protein, even though you get (what they claim) 50% absorption of it?
These are all questions I haven't been able to find through quick searches and my thoughts are, there is no study that really looks that deep into it. So take the information as you will, but create your own thoughts on the matter and act accordingly but you should definitely be asking yourself more questions about articles and whether it makes physiological and biological sense or not.
AzzidReign
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Is there a specific reason for leaving out most of the yolks? And soy milk? I'd look up the dangers of non-fermented soy. Not to mention it's estrogenic...which actually triggers your fat making hormones... In general, I would stay away from all soy products unless you are consuming fermented soy.
Thanks for the advice on soy, actually I am more a Rice Milk man now and whilst I have eaten raw egg whites for probably 40 years with no ill effects it was only about a year ago that I read one egg yolk included was very beneficial.
I have in the distant past been a pretty good natural body builder but now I am getting on a bit I tend to do more cardio (did the Dallas Half Marathon last December) and just keep healthy. I have read, seen and acted upon far to much magazine
"advice" over the last 40 years and many of my choices now are based on trying something different.
Not trying to convince anyone to eat raw eggs or not but I am probably the only person here who has done it for so long. Eggs are pretty much the only non vegetarian item I eat without thought, though the occasional piece of tuna still excites me.
EDIT: Egg yolks are the fat so should be avoided in general.
I second that, and don't waste the pulp as it is very good for dogs if you can get them to eat it. I had two dogs that ate raw chicken wings and the pulp at least 3 times a week.
AzzidReign
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Good quality fat is essential. I don't know why people still think avoiding fat is a good thing. The yolk has some great properties to it. People seem to think it will increase our blood cholesterol, but 80% of the cholesterol in our blood is from the boy making it itself. It's refined carbs that actually increase the fat and cholesterol levels.
I haven't looked much into it, but I would also think that the yolk would contain much of the omega 3 fatty acids in it (since the whites seem to be mainly protein - this is only a guess and haven't read up on it). So by not consuming the yolks, you aren't getting the good omega 3's from it. Plus, fat actually activates hormones in your body to burn fat. All refined carbs signal the body's hormones to store it as fat and create cholesterol.
In general, I'd say to stay away from refined carbs and anything that says "low fat" or "fat free" on it...rather than saying to stay away from fat. There's also a difference in the fats from grain fed meat as opposed to grass fed. Grass fed will be high in omega 3's which is definitely much healthier than the high omega 6's that come from grain fed (pro inflammatory).
We need to stay away from all the chemicals used in mass production of meats and produce. All these chemicals are "hormone-like" and are binding at our receptor sites not allowing our hormones to bind, hence your body isn't able to do what it's meant to do. This is why staying away from crap fat, crap produce, etc. is important to stay away from (not to mention the toxicity of all that).
All my bloods come out average or below the norm (within the prescribed limits) so my guestimates based on reading the odd magazine or two seems to be working out OK. One thing I noticed over the years is that one day something will be good for you and often not long after it won't. If the experts keep changing their minds it is hard to do the right thing and the defining factor for me has often been my taste buds demanding something different or my body telling me I need to take some factor into account. I also find I don't enjoy meat or dairy at all now and recently I can't eat as much fish as I might have in the past.
For instance a friend of mine said come and do the Dallas Half Marathon so from no running I trained for a couple of months and did it fine except that my knees felt bruised. A bit of research on the internet, 1000mg of Omega 3 daily and a stretching exercise later and I was fine. My thinking is 50% proactive and 50% reactive, I have never considered myself well informed or competent in advising others on what they should do. However I enjoy taking anything that has worked for someone else and seeing if its worth a try for me.
I now know more about Soya and GM issues so today has been a plus
*waves to Howard*
Howard, when are you going to get a real job again?
Hi John
A good question, and I think the answer to that could be when the sun isn't shining, when I cease to go to the gym, when I can no longer travel or when I run out of good books.
There are no jobs currently that excite me and I don't feel the need to do something I don't like when I have the means not to. I did look for something to pass the time, worked for a while for a financial services company but soon realised working for money I did not need just to have a job was stupid. Anti piracy is not a career, there were no jobs and I have a low boredom threshold.
The simple answer could well be never unless Anti Piracy comes back in vogue as I still have all the software etc. and still have regular contact with all my old staff who would jump at the chance of the good wages I offered. I would do it just because I considered it was a valid task not because it was ever a big earner.
Good to know you're doing well and are happy Howard. You were certainly the best at what you did and helped me immensely...never know what the future might hold, do we?
My pleasure John, I jumped off the "I want" train years ago and am very content with my modest but comfortable existence. I am what I am and am happy to work within those parameters/limitations especially when I get total freedom of choice on a daily basis.
Jake Bunce
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Almond milk tastes awesome. I also feel a lot better mixing that into my veggie drink because it provides fat and protein which vegetables don't have very much of.
I also juiced kale tonight. That's one potent vegetable, but it's loaded with vitamins and nutrients.
I also juiced kale tonight. That's one potent vegetable, but it's loaded with vitamins and nutrients.
Shelley
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Are you still with the raw egg diet along with the other stuff your trying?
Jake Bunce
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Nah I stopped the raw eggs. No more animal products. Just plant stuff.
Shelley
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Nice. hopefully your feeling better within yourself whatever diet you resort to and stick with.
Forsaken
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I've been drinking Almond milk since I was in middle school because I'm lactose intolerant.
Way better with cereal or oatmeal compared to cow milk or soy milk.
John
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How does that work with the cheesecakes? Grin and bear it?
AzzidReign
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Oh gosh...Kale. Definitely has a potent taste and takes over my green smoothies when I put it in there.
I love almond milk...have yet to make it myself. Need to get one of those nut bags (inb4 nut sack) to drain it.
