IPS V5 vs XF 3

Watt579

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Hello everyone,

Im not openng this topic as a hater, i would like to hear your opinions and to debate about this controverial subject : XF vs IPS
I also need to take a decision to upgrade the IPS to v5 or to migrate to XF maybe v3 because i dont have a deadline and i can wait.
Im curently using IPS v4.7.23, my community have more than 7M posts, im using Commerce App with custom built gateway based on bitcoin (BTC Server), along with Gallery application, Blogs, Pages, Files, along with other private app such as Member of the Month , Attachment Watermark, FAQ, Hide Content, Enhanced Advertisments and other custom apps when a user gets automatically PM after purchase a subscription.

1. I think first thing i noticed when i have checked Xenforo software is have less features than IPS,this thing may be good or bad it depends of what sort of community we are talking about. My community tends to use all features from IPS, users gives negative rep points each other, complaints to moderators, communicating each other on blogs, writing comments everywhere, debating etc. What do you think about features from XF versus features IPS 4 v ?

2. Whats your opinion about IPS v5 compare to XF version 3 (i know is not finished yet) ?

3. Can all my list with applications ,i wrote at the begining my comment, be transfered to XF including all data ?

4. You think is better to wait for XF version 3 before migrating ?

5. I need to keep the URLs structure SAME as they are in IPS to avoid SEO problems, is it possible ?

6. I know it depende of lots of things, but if proper optimized which IPS or XF can be faster when loading ?

The reason of migration from IPS is quite bizzare. Recently, we have change server, and i encounter some troubles. The IPS support only focus on their cloud clients and give very little attention to self-hosted clients. And the support give this small amount of attention, only gets respondes such as deactivate all plugins/application, it doesnt work and other ******** answer. I received (paid) support from users from official IPS forum, neither from source. Also the official forum is have a lack of activity, it seems dead sometimes i can see 2-3 comments on daily basis compare to XF community where is intensive activity after refresing the page. Also they have removed marketplace, which is another problem.
When trying to hire a developer from official IPS, dont get any answers, lots of them retired/abandoned accounts and when i tried to use Freelancer/fiverr/upwork/toptal the devs never heard of IPS, they did heard about vbulletin and XF and i have to explan them about IPS, give them the official URL etc. I dont get the feelling of trust anymore about IPS.
 
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1. Features: IPS is ok, XenForo framework is much better and faster, also best for security and development, reliable
  • IPS: Commerce, gallery, blogs, pages all included
  • XF: Leaner core, better performance, stronger addon development and ecosystem for the future

2. IPS v5 vs XF 3

3. Migration Reality Check:

Forums, posts, users, gallery = Yes, possible
Commerce, Blogs, Pages, custom apps = No, your Bitcoin Commerce addon would need an upgrade for development


4. Shall you wait for XenForo 3.0? No, because it will take 1 to up to 4 years away, and so just a theme change. You can migrate to XF 2.3.7 now if you are going to do it right now


5. URL preservation: Possible,


6. Performance board: XenForo framework is much better and faster than IPS in most benchmarks. Your 7 Millions posts will load quicker on XF with proper optimization than on IPS


Bottom line as: Your IPS complaints are valid (support sucks, marketplace gone, can't find devs). But migration will cost you:
  • $1k or up to 10k in the development
  • Complete commerce rebuild
  • Loss of blogs and pages
  • Weeks of work
  • Possible SEO damage
 
What do you think about features from XF versus features IPS 4 v ?
The best way to go about this imo is to use the XenForo demo and see for yourself what it has to offer.


Can all my list with applications ,i wrote at the begining my comment, be transfered to XF including all data ?
I don't think that the data for the Ips apps will be converted to XenForo by the official converter. The same goes for any third party apps. That said, you can always hire someone to do custom converts for you.

4. You think is better to wait for XF version 3 before migrating ?
Personally I think it's better to not wait for xf 3 to migrate your forum. You can migrate it to the current xf version. It will be worth the while.
 
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