Inception movie

[Jaxel]

I understood Inception without any issues... I mean how could you not? Every time something complicated is going to happen, they come out and tell you new rules, and their implications; I mean they really do dumb it down for you. While I enjoyed the movie, this is the main reason I have no interest to really see it again. It felt like bad sci-fi writing where they create this universe, and every time they walk themselves into a corner on the physics/plot they pop up and say "oh! it works this way, there are rules for this! we just forgot to tell you!".

Its the same reason I hated Mass Effect. Mass Effect is not good sci-fi; its a terrible story, that happens to take place in space. You can't just throw stories and "mythos" at it in abundance and say "oooh, its complicated and confusing, so it must be deep!". The politics in it are not realistic and make no logical sense. Its also the reason why I loved RDM's Battlestar Galactica remake; it doesn't do all that, it doesn't try to be your average "mythos" based sci-fi story (until the last season). Instead its just one of the best political dramas on TV... that just happens to take place in space.

 

[dutchbb]

Inception is a smart, original and enjoyable movie and this is very rare in Hollywood. It's these kind of movies we want, not the crappy American remakes or another brainless action movie or another adaptation because the director lacks creativity.

 

[Carlos]

i think nobody really understands it. not even the writers.
that being said, there is a personality type that will claim to understand it regardless.

I understand it. Everyone needs to understand that events in that movie is as simple as it is complicated.

The complicated part's the whole "a dream within' a dream." The simple part is that each dream affects the events of another.

If you want the complication to be simplified - DiCaprio's character had to go through 4 dreams (or more - more or less because of his trying to find the love of his life; in reality he was really trying to find a piece, which by the end of the movie is revealed as the key to his beloved's mind), while the rest of the crew only had to go through 2 or three dreams depending on the character.

For example, the guy that dicaprio dealt with was involved in 3 dreams; two of them were in the same place, only different times.

Another example is the girl that helped dicaprio with his beloved was involved in dicaprio's side-dream which led him to the key.

 

[Grover]

I beg to differ. The concept of The Matrix has been discussed before although they did a great job of creating superb visuals and a good story line around it. Personally I think that Dark City was a much more interesting and superior film that stayed true to its point. It's a sweet film that must be seen more than once to capture all of its subtleties and is a deep film.

Although my girlfriend also liked Dark City... from my point of view it doesn't come close to The Matrix (part 1) in any shape or form. Dark City didn't do anything for me... in fact I even wanted to turn it off when I almost fell asleep watching it! . But obviously what works for one doesn't have to work for another, as this discussion already pointed out so clearly .

The part in The Matrix that totally blew it for me -- what does Neo say when he thinks about what he needs to save Morpheus? "We need guns... lots of guns." My first thought was "What the... didn't we spend the entire movie talking about how guns are worthless and it's all about the power of your mind -- once you've mastered the Matrix you could outrun a bullet, etc.?"

Maybe shooting a few hundred of bullets into a software program called 'Smith' or 'Agent' works slightly faster then the power of one's mind? Only God (or Neo) knows...

Unfortunately, the last third of the movie went Hollywood ending and the complete antithesis of the point of the movie. Neo dies (which meant he dies in real life) yet the Hollywood kiss revives him. But this was the Wachowski brothers (brother-sister?) trying to finagle in a whole bunch of metaphorical religious symbolism that doesn't belong, Trinity (G-d) kissing Neo (Christ and the redeemer) resulting in His resurrection. Yikes...

Yes, this was also my first reaction ('a typical Hollywood ending') when I saw the movie the first time. However, I now believe there is more to it. Look:

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Oracle: You're cuter than I thought. I can see why she likes you.
Neo: Who?
Oracle: Not too bright though. You know why Morpheus brought you to see me. So, what do you think? Do you think you are the one?
Neo: Honestly I don't know.
The Oracle points to a sign over the kitchen door.
Oracle: You know what that means? It's Latin. Means 'know thyself'. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Being the One is just like being in love. No one can tell you if you're in love, you just know it, through and through, balls to bone. Well, I better have a look at you. Open your mouth, say aaah.
The Oracle looks in his eyes, mouth, and looks at his palms.
Oracle: Ok... I'm supposed to say, hmmm, that's interesting, but, then you say...
Neo: But what?
Oracle: But, you already know what I'm going to tell you.
Neo: I'm not the one.
Oracle: Sorry, kid. You got the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something.
Neo: What?
Oracle: You're next life, maybe. Who knows. That's the way these things go.
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He remembers...no he knows who he is when his next life is indeed around the corner... namely the moment he is shot by Smith... and Trinity telling him this:

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Trinity: Neo, I'm not afraid anymore. The Oracle told me that I would fall in love and that that man... the man that I loved would be The One. So you see, you can't be dead. You can't be... because I love you. You hear me? I love you. Now, get up!'
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There is so much in this movie, so much more then meets the eye... it is truly unbelievable.

 

[TheLaw]

Maybe shooting a few hundred of bullets into a software program called 'Smith' or 'Agent' works slightly faster then the power of one's mind? Only God (or Neo) knows...

As they say in Hollywood, the only one more powerful than God is the Producer...

Yes, this was also my first reaction ('a typical Hollywood ending') when I saw the movie the first time. However, I now believe there is more to it. Look:
There is so much in this movie, so much more then meets the eye... it is truly unbelievable.

I hear you... Here was my take....

Inception, as convoluted as it is, still makes for an enjoyable and engaging watch mixing the intellectual with the visual and not losing sight of the prize. It may be ridiculously complicated to understand and sometimes stretching the imagination with the visual representations of concepts but it always remained consistent.

When virtually all of your audience doesn't understand the level of depth and brilliance of your three part (everything in three) masterpiece in just the first installment and must resort to philosophical interpretations about its meaning, I find that the joy in the essence of a motion picture is lost. A book is another story telling device. I thought that the science and religious didn't meld too well, especially since they were taken literally rather than figuratively and the story of the Matrix itself provides logic and explanations that are antithetical to the Bible. I've seen some awesome movies with superb symbolism that was subtle throughout but this was too much for me. The Matrix to me is more of a visual feast and provides fantastic style and riveting the senses in the telling of a good story. Dark City is really more of a thinking person's movie and the visuals are meant as a secondary device to illustrate the point. To each their own!

 

[Junior]

Inception is a smart, original and enjoyable movie and this is very rare in Hollywood. It's these kind of movies we want, not the crappy American remakes or another brainless action movie or another adaptation because the director lacks creativity.

Agreed, it was very good.

Some people say they had to watch it a couple times to fully understand it. There is all sorts of ways you can interpret the movie. Thats what made it so good.

 

[random]

Yesterday I watch it again (now fully concentrated) and I perfectly understood it!

Very very good movie!!!

 

[Jethro]

Best marketing campaign of 2010, hats off to the Advertising agency on this one.

People think this is an original concept? Guess I read/watch a bunch more books/movies than your average SciFi fan.

 

[Jake Bunce]

I liked Inception. The only problem I had with it was the presentation. The movie is filled with excessive action and eye candy. But the actual substance of the movie is very good.

 

[TheLaw]

People think this is an original concept? Guess I read/watch a bunch more books/movies than your average SciFi fan.

LOL... it's mostly the generation. They don't read books and usually don't watch movies pre-CGI.

 

[yavuz]

It was overall a great film in my experience. And I understand the concept and had some pre suggestions that I should pay attention to the details. Just that I found absurd is the way they got in each other’s dreams in the first place.


Wouldn’t it be nice if we could achieve to get into ones dream by simply taking a strong sedation drug?

 

[Savvy]

I understood and loved Inception. There were a few loop holes in the movie though that didn't make sense.
For example, if people in the second dream (although they are asleep) are floating then why aren't they floating in dream 3? Dream 1 clearly made everybody in dream 2 float... That didn't make much sense but regardless it was good. The visuals were great and it's the best movie I've seen in a long time now.

 

[Peggy]

Dang it sounds confusing already and I haven't even seen it yet.

 

[John]

I thought it was okay, just glad I didn't pay full price to see it in the theater.

 

[Jake Bunce]

Dang it sounds confusing already and I haven't even seen it yet.

It's actually a very simple concept. The movie just presents and explains it in an overcomplicated manner. It's so complex and cool.

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[Jake Bunce]

My brother says Inception is recursive depth first linked list deletion.

 

[Carlos]

For example, if people in the second dream (although they are asleep) are floating then why aren't they floating in dream 3? Dream 1 clearly made everybody in dream 2 float... That didn't make much sense but regardless it was good. The visuals were great and it's the best movie I've seen in a long time now.

That's because the gravity of the situation in dream 3 was affected by dream 2; those who weren't in dream 3 is drifted off to dream 4, therefore affecting dream 3 - think of it the same way that you put 4 marbles in a tray, while the other has 2 marbles yet, its held up a little bit because of the gravity.

The marbles doesn't have too much weight on them, but with a lot of marbles, that weight can be weighed down; while the ones with the other two is not affected because of its gravity. 2 marbles can be seen as the weight as the 4 marbles.

If you subtract 1 from that tray on the 4 marbles table; 3 marbles is = 2 marbles.

 

[Sadik B]

Maybe you guys who didn't understand Inception should read this

 

[Kim]

Hired this for tonight, not sure if I will enjoy it or not.

 

[jmurrayhead]

I haven't seen it yet, but it's on my list. I've heard from multiple people that this was an excellent movie.