Incentives for vbulletin.org modders to offer their mod for XF?

[Alpha1]

I think a lot of vBorg modders will be asked these days if they're going to offer their mod for XF as well.

I think a lot of them will as there is a lot of goodwill. Is XF offering any incentives to vbulletin.org modders? License cost will be an issue

 

[Lycaon]

For me Windows XP - I have Windows 7 but luckily I still have XP at work.

 

[mikoo]

Sorry but vB4 is not dead by a long way, I think you will find they are still nicely selling licences.

Good news. Anyone interested in buying a not used VB4 Suite license for 180 Euros? LOL

 

[lazer]

I'd say it's more the Windows Me of forum software

I didn't want to stoop that low

 

[Miko]

Good news. Anyone interested in buying a not used VB4 Suite license for 180 Euros? LOL

Totally off topic, just posting as I'm surprised to see someone here called mikoo!

 

[Trip]

I don't think there is a need to offer some type of incentive. The majority of modifications created for other software are done either because the author required it for his/her own site and decided to share it with the community or they're offering a 'lite' version with hopes of attracting potential clients towards a paid version. Of course there are people who just enjoy developing code and they release their work just for the social aspect, community involvement or whatever
I'm sure you'll see a modification community here in time with names nobody has ever heard of. Their ideas will be fresh and every bit as good. It just takes time. All forum software communities have their 'coders', XenForo won't be any different.

 

[Elizabeth]

I don't think there is a need to offer some type of incentive. The majority of modifications created for other software are done either because the author required it for his/her own site and decided to share it with the community or they're offering a 'lite' version with hopes of attracting potential clients towards a paid version. Of course there are people who just enjoy developing code and they release their work just for the social aspect, community involvement or whatever 
I'm sure you'll see a modification community here in time with names nobody has ever heard of. Their ideas will be fresh and every bit as good. It just takes time. All forum software communities have their 'coders', XenForo won't be any different.

And remember, we are attracting coder/stylists from all segments, NOT just vb.org. 

 

[Brandon_R]

Sorry but vB4 is not dead by a long way, I think you will find they are still nicely selling licences.

The more licenses they sell, the more people they disappoint.

 

[Lycaon]

The more licenses they sell, the more people they disappoint.

Well put.

 

[dutchbb]

I love the quote I read somewhere here that "VB4 is the Vista of forum software" - to keep the Microsoft analogies going, let's consider that XF is the "Windows 7 of forum software" then, shall we?

For me Snow Leopard; stability, simplicity & good UI

Good news. Anyone interested in buying a not used VB4 Suite license for 180 Euros? LOL

I love the not used part roflol!

 

[mikoo]

I love the not used part roflol!

No one has touched it! ;-) So there are definitely no scratches on it.

 

[Peggy]

As far as I know, there will be no incentive for modders/stylists. There's no need to offer any incentives.
After all, they have the privilege of coding/designing for a new, excitingly cutting edge software.
What more incentive could they need?

 

[gnatster]

If one is creating mods for sale then then the cost of the XF license is just part of the cost of doing business. While I'm sure that those in the arena would be quite happy to have more incentive I don't think it is a deal breaker when deciding to create XF mods. I know we are planning on picking up a few XF licenses right off the bat to start getting under the hood for not only our mods but our own sites as well.

 

[0ptima]

Well, to start developing you need full access to the unencrypted source code anyway.

I'm also sure most developers prefer running the script on localhost.

So I'm afraid such a hosted solution is really pointless for dev purposes.

I never said such a system would be encrypted..... It probably would be pointless, as serious developers would want to have local installs.

 

[3rd AnGle]

From xenForo's point of view, the more add-ons available free of cost the better it is. That is, xenForo being a platform like ANDROID and all add-ons as apps.

 

[Greg]

I can see a possible advantage in offering a $25 dollar developer's license with a built in lock that prevents it from being used online/in a live environment, assuming that adding such a lock is possible. It would get developers who might not want to spend the money to try out a new platform checking out XF; it would also get people who really just want it for a curiosity to play with it. It wouldn't really conflict with the population of people actually buying the software, would extend the mod/skin community, and would likely result in a number of the people purchasing dev licences eventually upgrading.

I understand that not everyone would be in favor of offering developer discounts, but some of the comments in this thread are insane. Developers should be thankful for the privilege of writing code to extend XF? Please. There are plenty of exciting open-source projects that someone who wants to code can contribute to at no cost to themselves. Mod writers are some of the most important members of the community. Even if you're not going to offer them anything, you definitely shouldn't just trivialize them. They don't need to share their code with anyone. XF without a mod community isn't worth purchasing over other alternatives.

 

[lazer]

XF without a mod community isn't worth purchasing over other alternatives.

Personally, I would rather install XF without mods than install VB4, period. XF will naturally generate a mod community and it will be important for the future of the product, that's a given.

As to whether coders should have dicounts available for their first license - I say yes! If a coder can prove their track record, then a discount of say 50% would be a good way to stimulate the mod community within XF and drive future business.

If I had a "pet" mod coder, I would buy them a copy on the day of release

 

[Greg]

VB4 isn't the only alternative out there- you can pick up an old license of vB3 cheap, or buy an IPB licenese, or use MyBB or SMF or phpBB. Luckily, XF will have a mod community- it just shouldn't be trivialized.

 

[Decado]

VB4 isn't the only alternative out there- you can pick up an old license of vB3 cheap, or buy an IPB licenese, or use MyBB or SMF or phpBB. Luckily, XF will have a mod community- it just shouldn't be trivialized.

From the brief conversations i've had with Kier and Mike, they aren't going to be trivializing the mod community at all - it looks to be very important to them, and something they want to encourage.

As noted in a previous post though, if you have to drag coders over kicking and screaming, then those are the coders you probably don't want as part of the community anyway.

While it may mean certain mods don't get ported instantly, it also means that XF has a chance to build its own community, with it's own look and feel =)

I'm not against incentives by any means, but i also don't see it as some affront to the coding community if they aren't offered - It's not like vB.org was throwing around free vB4 licenses for vb3 coders

 

[Greg]

I have no doubt that Kier and Mike will have nothing but respect for the hackers. It's some of the replies in this thread that give me pause.

 

[Floris]

Not giving inceptive to those who dedicate their free time to write non-profit addons for vBulletin or in the future for XenForo - has nothing do with respecting or not respecting vBorg coders .. obviously