How is the product going to be licensed?

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Shamil

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We've been told that xenForo is under a commercial license, and the pricing scheme will be competitive to that of vBulletin and IP.B.

However, do you think xenForo would benefit more from having a "subscription" style system, such as the prior used by vBulletin. i.e. paying for updates/support?
 
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Upgrading my 20 licenses to vBulletin 4 is $4200+
Converting my site to XenForo under one instance for $500, and have a modern solution that makes it worth taking that step: Yes.
 
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Floris said:
Upgrading my 20 licenses to vBulletin 4 is $4200+
Converting my site to XenForo under one instance for $500, and have a modern solution that makes it worth taking that step: Yes.
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Where are you getting the idea that you could run all those sites under one license? Seems like it would be more like $500*20 = $10,000. :) (Unless you are implying that you would sell the rest of the wetalk network and only own xenfans.com.)
 
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Eriksrocks said:
Where are you getting the idea that you could run all those sites under one license? Seems like it would be more like $500*20 = $10,000. :) (Unless you are implying that you would sell the rest of the wetalk network and only own xenfans.com.)
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No, moving away from running it as a network, and just use 1 site.
 
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Eriksrocks said:
Ok, I'm just trying to make sure we have fair and equal price comparisons here. If you did that with vB, you'd only be paying $250 for 1 license upgrade, right? Or am I not understanding you correctly? :)
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No, the choice would be to stick to vB, stick to a network setup. As that already works, and helps fight the clutter and organize it for the end user.

Since XF introduces a lot of clutter free - making a forum structure that makes more sense and custom pages instead of custom sub forums, a lot can be done to just use one license.

Even if the choice was to move to vB4 with 1 license, it will still cost me in other areas, due to the traffic it generates, the clutter it has, performance, etc. Compared to a modern solution that's optimized from grounds up.

I could move from a dedicated solution to VPS, for the same, if not more, traffic.
 
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Floris said:
No, the choice would be to stick to vB, stick to a network setup. As that already works, and helps fight the clutter and organize it for the end user.

Since XF introduces a lot of clutter free - making a forum structure that makes more sense and custom pages instead of custom sub forums, a lot can be done to just use one license.

Even if the choice was to move to vB4 with 1 license, it will still cost me in other areas, due to the traffic it generates, the clutter it has, performance, etc. Compared to a modern solution that's optimized from grounds up.
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Ok, now I see what you're saying. :)
Floris said:
I could move from a dedicated solution to VPS, for the same, if not more, traffic.
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I will trust you with this one as I assume you've seen some of the backend code. I should point out, however, that no one really knows how it will perform until it's tested on significantly large boards and until we can all get our hands on it. :)
 
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Very true. But I think it is clear already that no matter what happens, I will remain on 3.8 until a have a reason to upgrade to a modern solution that makes me feel I push my site(s) to the next level. And that won't be IPB 3.1 or vBulletin 4.x. But that's just my opinion, :)
 
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Eriksrocks said:
If they charged that much, XenForo would go down in flames as virtually nobody would buy it. You could get three IPB licenses for that price and still have cash to spare.
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This is so true.
Lets not forget, some of us are serious, however I bought a few months back a IP.B license as I had no idea that XF was on the way. So please, for the sake of us poor ones, a nice scheme. I am liking a early adopters sale that brings it down to the hundred dollar or cheaper range.
 
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MordyT said:
This is so true.
Lets not forget, some of us are serious, however I bought a few months back a IP.B license as I had no idea that XF was on the way. So please, for the sake of us poor ones, a nice scheme. I am liking a early adopters sale that brings it down to the hundred dollar or cheaper range.
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I am sure they will keep every customer range in mind, but it is hard to please everybody.
Even if they make it $99, people will say: a) what, no discount for non-profit, why isn't it $49? b) $99 is too low, I wouldn't have minded paying $199 ..

But whatever the number is, at the end of the day, if you don't have the $49 and don't think it's worth it; don't buy it.
Same goes for $499. But I am hoping everybody agrees that both those numbers are unrealistic.
 
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MordyT said:
This is so true.
Lets not forget, some of us are serious, however I bought a few months back a IP.B license as I had no idea that XF was on the way. So please, for the sake of us poor ones, a nice scheme. I am liking a early adopters sale that brings it down to the hundred dollar or cheaper range.
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<$100 seems to cheap. I would say minimum $100, maximum $180 for the early adopters sale. :)
 
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Dream said:
I'd say charge $20 for the license, and $10 per year.

Say you sell 100.000 licenses in the first year, that would be $2m. It could happen at that price.
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Sorry, but this would never happen. There are only something like 250,000 vBulletin licenses out there. It's near-impossible that XenForo would sell almost half that in the first year. Also, $20 is ridiculously undervaluing the software, unfortunately. :)
 
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