Has Elon Musk lost his mind or?…

[Arantor]

You realize that this conversation can be interpreted as supporting this in libraries too, right?

I made no such claims. I merely asked the room if this was acceptable or not, without suggesting my own thoughts either way on the matter. My core point - which you seem to have missed - is that there are some spectacular examples of double standards at work about 'censorship', and about material that until recently was apparently above review or suspicion.

I also point out, again, that there is a difference between such material being in school libraries, such material being in public libraries and such material being generally available (whether for purchase or otherwise circulated), and confined this example to school libraries.

I find it curious that twice now you have attempted to move the goal posts to find a gotcha moment as if that somehow undermines my point, when the fact you need to look for one actually supports what I was saying.

But this all goes to show why talking about censorship and suchlike is a very complex matter, and even to bring it back on topic, why Musk bought Twitter. It was never about making money out of it because what he got was something far more valuable than mere money. He got sycophants and acolytes. A veritable online army to preach Elonism.

 

[Mr Lucky]

they want my 16 year old daughter to use the same bathroom as a man who thinks he's a woman

A good job she never goes on a airplane then because that can happen.

Once again, I invoke Godwin’s Law.

Not there yet, but while people are equating socialism with destruction of the family we are getting close to countering with equating conservatism (or if you will Republicanism) with that bloke, you know the one with the little moustache.

 

[zappaDPJ]

 

[Mr Lucky]

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That’s the one! (Sorry Mr Godwin)

 

[Dragapult]

Everything is PC these days.

Well, I guess you'll have to keep whining, then. People are going to say things on the Internet you won't like. Just something you have to deal with. There are a lot of dumb posts in this thread, but I just accept that because it's inevitable.

 

[Dragapult]

But it doesn't change and not putting what you think, they want me to believe that you are right. Die with your thoughts "woke" agenda, leave us free.
We are made up of family...

You'll need to rewrite this, I have no clue what you are saying. Except that you seemingly want people who don't think the way you do to die, which just demonstrates how hypocritical you actually are.

 

[Dragapult]

Or maybe you just have a warped view of the meaning of socialism.

It's pretty evident this is another instance of "anything that doesn't align with my world view is wrong." Just like anything that doesn't align with Fox News is "far left." It's just the usual pandering to the audience. Words like "socialism," "racism," "woke," "communist," "fascist," etc. are just used now as generic put-downs when you don't agree with someone, or don't understand something.

 

[Dragapult]

they are for abortion and gender equality

Good. Let women choose what to do with their bodies. And treating people unequally because of their gender and sex is wrong.

If you want to treat people less because of their gender, sex, or life decisions, this just demonstrates how you are no better than the people you claim are bad. All you've demonstrated so far is you're a very bitter and hypocritical person. Hiding behind religion to justify your clear hatred for people you don't like or understand.

 

[Suzanne O]

Well, I guess you'll have to keep whining, then. People are going to say things on the Internet you won't like. Just something you have to deal with. There are a lot of dumb posts in this thread, but I just accept that because it's inevitable.

Yeah unless you abide by those government's laws on your own forum you won't any issues.

 

[Dragapult]

A good job she never goes on a airplane then because that can happen.

I assume he's equally concerned when it's someone else's son using a bathroom with a woman who think she's a man, right?

Oh wait, no. People like this don't actually care, they just want to soapbox. They only pretend to care about these things when they're personally affected. Always hiding behind religion, or some kind of morality, to justify their real beliefs and true colors.

 

[Dragapult]

Yeah unless you abide by those government's laws on your own forum you won't any issues.

Every forum has its own rules. Including here. They are privately run and can set up any rules they like. They could ban people for talking about Pokemon if they really wanted to. That's how it works. Don't like it, don't post here. People are going to say things you don't like, it doesn't make it "politically correct" or "woke" or "racist" or "communist" or anything else. There's some posters here I clearly would never associate with in real life based on some of their posts here, but oh well, they have every right to say it and I've gotta accept that.

Frankly, I'm amazed this thread is still open. I expect it to be closed soon.

 

[Suzanne O]

Every forum has its own rules. Including here. They are privately run and can set up any rules they like. They could ban people for talking about Pokemon if they really wanted to. That's how it works. Don't like it, don't post here. People are going to say things you don't like, it doesn't make it "politically correct" or "woke" or "racist" or "communist" or anything else. There's some posters here I clearly would never associate with in real life based on some of their posts here, but oh well, they have every right to say it and I've gotta accept that.

Frankly, I'm amazed this thread is still open. I expect it to be closed soon.

Issue is that you need to have age restrictions and make sure that no Aussie kid under the age of 16 is on your forum.
It's law now over here in Australia.
All of us who are forum owners have to abide by that law.
With the England Government they want us to comply with their strict laws too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Xenforo is affected by this and have to tweak their rules a bit.
While everyone in America has to put up with a horrible person as president. Bloke that they voted in is a dictator.
So everywhere at the moment has a yikes factor.

 

[Starbucks]

Frankly, I'm amazed this thread is still open. I expect it to be closed soon.

Same. I do enjoy this thread though. It’s 38° here in Argentina, 8.20pm at this moment of writing and I’m in my swimming pool, with a gin tonic reading all these comments. Keep it going.

 

[Dragapult]

Same. I do enjoy this thread though. It’s 38° here in Argentina, 8.20pm at this moment of writing and I’m in my swimming pool, with a gin tonic reading all these comments. Keep it going.

Hey, this is probably the most activity this board has seen in a while. I've also not got much else to do today, so I guess I'll hang around.

 

[Opus X]

Leviticus 18:6-18 succeeds Genesis. When viewing the Bible as a historical document of legal

we are not discussing theology.
we are discussing whether the book should be in a library for children since it contains adult and socially not allowed activity.
just like 50 shades of gray or other books that contains references of sex that people want banned.
to say the bible is ok but those other books are not is what most call hypocrisy.

 

[Starbucks]

 

[frm]

But this all goes to show why talking about censorship and suchlike is a very complex matter, and even to bring it back on topic, why Musk bought Twitter. It was never about making money out of it because what he got was something far more valuable than mere money. He got sycophants and acolytes. A veritable online army to preach Elonism.

And what's Bluesky's approach to censorship been?

 

[Starbucks]

And what's Bluesky's approach to censorship been?

its community:

 

[Suzanne O]

And what's Bluesky's approach to censorship been?

You don't post them up.

 

[Nebulous]

Same. I do enjoy this thread though. It’s 38° here in Argentina, 8.20pm at this moment of writing and I’m in my swimming pool, with a gin tonic reading all these comments. Keep it going.

Why are you in a swimming pool while drinking and using electronic devices?