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Developer license on top of xenforo license

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by SneakyDave, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. SneakyDave

    SneakyDave Well-Known Member

    This isn't really a suggestion, but a conversation about support for a secondary developer license on top of the xenforo license.

    I don't know if it'd make sense, I'm just throwing it out there.

    Everybody on vb.org thinks they're a developer, a yearly xenforo developer license would instill a little more trust to users that the xenforo developer is serious about supporting their product, possibly.

    This license could include some database/forum tools to easily create builds, test scripts, image packs, insider knowledge, reseller bonuses(?), etc (?), but how you'd keep that limited to just license holders is beyond me.

    I'm just saying that I'd support a paid for developer program, as well as having the ability for anybody to create a mod/app/hack for the core project.
  2. Spenser

    Spenser Active Member

    Sounds reasonable to me, but is subject to owner decision. I don't think that should be discussed by us (users).
    SneakyDave likes this.
  3. Brandon_R

    Brandon_R Guest

    I think we should wait for the forum to take off first so the future of this product can be financially sealed then we can try stuff like this.
    hcmagix likes this.
  4. mlx

    mlx Well-Known Member

    Insider knowledge? I think knowledge about getting started developing for XenForo should be available to everyone having a XenForo license.

    What else do you need? What are the benefits getting such a license?

    Basically you are buying your developer user title or something. Which tells me nothing in terms of trust.

    And I really don't want to see this turn into some kind of App Store where you have to pay your yearly fee and hope that your product gets accepted based on some weird and arbitrary rules.

    It should be free for everyone to contribute free mods.
    EQnoble likes this.
  5. Floris

    Floris Guest

    Inside knowledge is silly, because 1 person will just release that knowledge in an article to the public, and everybody has it.

    These tools, tricks and trips are all things that can be published on the forums here or fan-sites where they talk about modding. Keep things simple, stick to a single license type for now.

    The only change I can imagine in a license system in the future is an enterprise license with SLA option.
    EQnoble likes this.
  6. Andy Huang

    Andy Huang Well-Known Member

    How would you SLA something that runs on third party servers with all the third party softwares? If the plans are to go down that route, then they better start treading the untreaded hosted version water first...
  7. Floris

    Floris Guest

    The extend of the SLA can be determined obviously.
  8. Disjunto

    Disjunto Well-Known Member

    Why try and block potential mod developers by requiring them to spend even more money? The mod community is always a large part of a system, you have to let it grow :D
    EQnoble likes this.
  9. Floris

    Floris Guest

    A developer license is worth as much as an extended wiki for those who know what they're talking about.
    And I rather have the community build a worthy wiki, than having people keep their knowledge to themselves, because they've paid for a dev license.
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  10. Eric

    Eric Active Member

    Indeed. I would think that having to pay for a dev. license, if you wanted "to be a serious mod developer", would hinder xF's growth. vBulletin.org is a huge and invaluable resource to vBulletin - I've seen many people make their decision on software based on it alone.
    EQnoble likes this.
  11. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    We all know who the serious mod developers are after a while. It won't take long to figure that out after a mod section is setup for XenForo. Just like at vb.org, the best will establish a name for themselves.
    EQnoble likes this.
  12. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Only thing I say is that the wiki should be locally hosted at Xf's domain not a third party so the whole community is visiting the same place to deposit and withdraw info.

    I believe that as well, all I can say to back Eric is point at apple's dev program and what they did to early dev's with their return procedure. It was the catalyst for jailbreaking Ithings.

    If a developer comes up with his mod and it is so popular that it must be added to XF's release's or if people would like to see it backed officially by XF ltd then compensation would be in order. But for your average mod made by your average dev used by some and not known by the rest, I would think just getting your work out there for people to see would be enough. If you make something so sick that I can't figure out how your brain ticks, I may just offer to compensate you for a personal project of mine that I am more than likely not capable of doing myself. If a developer had to pay to design stuff for a particular software, how could an end-user not end up paying for the product; by making modding open to all, you lower the overhead costs. Also if I had to pay for something and say it was a work in progress and failed due to needed improvements, I would be more inclined to complain, whereas if in development stages I could try it for free, not only do i get to try to see if i like, but the developer is almost 100% going to get feedback/bug lists.

    I think that maybe developers who put in the work to have a product that is worth paying for, should have an option to setup there own mod store at (example) xenforo.com/developers/Eric/ where once approved based on success / proper functionality of your mods you could show all your community products as well as your higher end products that you charge for simply because of the amount of time and work that went into them. This ensures quality products like jmurrayhead said,
    If you apply this, people who make inferior products simply won't get distribution.. and to add to that thought when someone posts feedback about a mod it should be a REQUIREMENT to post a screenshot if it causes failure, including the error pages if any to be sure no one sabotages someones hard work. I see it all the time anywhere I go. People forget to be a community and knock someone over just to get that few inches by standing on their back. What i'm telling you is the only reason I bought the licenses I did for vB (rather than an open source solution) is because there is a community there that helps each other, without it I would be even more noobly than I already am. For Xf to be successful, the community needs to analyze the prefix commun which literally means to share (community = sharing+united). Just my opinion.
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