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Democrats Versus Republicans

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Xarcell, May 30, 2011.

  1. Xarcell

    Xarcell Well-Known Member

    Here in the US, this seems to be more important that actually fixing anything.

    Democrats want to give power to the government, and Republicans want to give power to the rich, while both are saying "it's for the people...". I'm so sick of this...

    When are we going to solve real problems together like sustainable alternatives to fossil fuels, not using toxins within our foods, and actually focus on curing disease instead of prolonging it for profit?

    Anyone else see this, or is it just me?
     
  2. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Political parties and politicians are whats wrong with politics (y).
     
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  3. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    ..... not a political thread. :X3:
     
  4. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    And I was going to get an early night too... ;)

    The worst kind of politician is one that actually wants to be a politician.
     
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  5. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Give up on that idea.
     
  6. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    It's a double edged sword. I don't think you will find many people disputing that we need alternative fuel except for big industry. I think people want alternatives as long as it doesn't cost them more money.
    Sure, we want jobs to stay in the US. Are we willing to shop American and not Walmart? I feel few are. Do we want food with less chemicals and a shorter shelf life? Do we want to eat fruit all year round. I remember seasonal fruit. That is a thing of the past.
    Everyone wants change, as long as it doesn't effect them. There is no easy answer. When it comes down to it, those with the deepest pockets win.

    This is an interesting thread and I do hope it doesn't become another party bashing thread with snide comments.
     
  7. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

    It is unbelievable that in the US you can chose from 100's of cars, shoes, banks, healthcare, etc, but only 2 choices (basically) to run our country. The same 2 party system that made us great, ironically, will/is killing us in the end. It is time to evolve from the 2 party system and I believe it is just a matter of time before that happens. It has to be.
     
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  8. a legacy reborn

    a legacy reborn Well-Known Member

    Everyone becomes independents, yes!
     
  9. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    One problem I think we have are that many people vote across party lines regardless of the candidate.

    I went searching for the last time there were more than 2 parties of significance.
    Interesting website
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/elections.php

    Other than democrat or republican
    1968 American Independent with George Wallace
    1948 States' Rights Strom Thurmond
    1924 Progressive Party
    1912 Progressive and Socialist Party
    1892 Populist Party
    1860 Southern Democratic and Constitutional Union Parties
    1856 First mention of Republican Party and Whig-American Party
    1852 Whig and Free Soil
    1848 Whig and Free Soil
    1848 Whig
    1796 Democratic-Republican party

    So I wonder why the republican party endured and the Whig and Free Soil parties did not?
    1789 and 1792, George Washington, unopposed.
     
  10. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    I hate both of these parties. ugh. I refuse to vote for anyone based on their party affiliation.
    I am independent and vote for who I think will be the best president. Much to my dismay, I've been wrong more often than right.
    Note - I did not vote for our current prez.
     
  11. Jake Bunce

    Jake Bunce XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  12. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

  13. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    I can think of another topic that would rival this thread. :D
     
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  14. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Ladies and Gentleman of the United States of America. You do not have a choice...you have the illusion of choice. What you live in is a system called a duopoly and choice is a misnomer here.

    This would be SOOOOOOOO beneficial to the US in terms of choice, progression, survival, and civil harmony. No one can be mad voting under a system like that unless of course they like being mad.
     
  15. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    We already have alternative voting. It's called the electoral college.
     
  16. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Which is a screwup
     
  17. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    It is a relic of the past that should be abolished.
    But then again, we wouldn't have had W in 2000, now would we? ;)
     
  18. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Yeah we might have had W in 2000 but having him really just equals a big L.
     
  19. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Hopefully we wouldn't have had any of these O'Bozo's we've had for the past several years.
     
  20. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    Don't want to get into the politics. Just bringing up that the electoral college doesn't always align itself with the popular vote.
     

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