Stuart Wright
Well-known member
Wanting to be transparent about our involvement with Daniel Hood’s addons, here is the situation.
Background.
My wife and I own AVForums.com which uses something like 90 Xenforo addons. AVForums is a large forum which provides a living for several full time employees and several freelancers.
We regularly need features and functions and commission coders to create them for us.
We commissioned several addons from Waindigo
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/temporary-user-changes-by-waindigo.3361/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/conversations-access-by-waindigo.2357/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/moderation-queue-information-by-waindigo.2360/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/watched-forums-by-waindigo.3818/
and we paid towards enhancements to others
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-hotspots.4827/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/moderation-queue-information-by-waindigo.2360/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/warnings-by-waindigo.2300/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-datatables-bb-code.4819/
When Waindigo retired from the Xenforo community we started a close working relationship with Daniel Hood, commissioning the following addons:
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/tag-essentials.4572/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/prefix-essentials.4970/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/conversation-monitor.4131/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/trending-content.3986/
which Daniel sold and supported on his Xenmods website, splitting the license revenue with us 50/50.
May 2016.
When Daniel retired from the coding community earlier this month, he had all his addons transferred to me (for no payment). His intention was that I would curate the addons, ensuring that they survive (since we use several of them) and make sure the license holders would be looked after.
I had hoped that I could strike up a relationship with a coder (or coders) who would support the addons for the same 50% cut of the license fee and 100% of any new development costs. Any less than 50% would not be worth the risk to our business.
I was misguided in thinking that it would be possible for a coder (or coders) to undertake this task. I did not consider these facts:
I chose @Xon to take over these addons who has committed to supporting them and advancing them to Xenforo 2 (feature redundancy not withstanding).
License holders will be able to claim their licenses using a small extension addon to Chris Deeming’s Products addon which Chris is in the process of producing.
So I want to apologise to everyone who has been waiting for support or sales of Daniel’s addons for the delay in organising this.
Trending Content, Prefix Essentials, Tag Essentials and Conversation Monitor are available to purchase now from https://www.m2n.co.uk/community/products/. I will support these on Xenforo.
Xon will make his own announcement about the remainder of Daniel’s addons.
Thank you.
Background.
My wife and I own AVForums.com which uses something like 90 Xenforo addons. AVForums is a large forum which provides a living for several full time employees and several freelancers.
We regularly need features and functions and commission coders to create them for us.
We commissioned several addons from Waindigo
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/temporary-user-changes-by-waindigo.3361/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/conversations-access-by-waindigo.2357/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/moderation-queue-information-by-waindigo.2360/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/watched-forums-by-waindigo.3818/
and we paid towards enhancements to others
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-hotspots.4827/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/moderation-queue-information-by-waindigo.2360/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/warnings-by-waindigo.2300/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/th-datatables-bb-code.4819/
When Waindigo retired from the Xenforo community we started a close working relationship with Daniel Hood, commissioning the following addons:
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/tag-essentials.4572/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/prefix-essentials.4970/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/conversation-monitor.4131/
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/trending-content.3986/
which Daniel sold and supported on his Xenmods website, splitting the license revenue with us 50/50.
May 2016.
When Daniel retired from the coding community earlier this month, he had all his addons transferred to me (for no payment). His intention was that I would curate the addons, ensuring that they survive (since we use several of them) and make sure the license holders would be looked after.
I had hoped that I could strike up a relationship with a coder (or coders) who would support the addons for the same 50% cut of the license fee and 100% of any new development costs. Any less than 50% would not be worth the risk to our business.
I was misguided in thinking that it would be possible for a coder (or coders) to undertake this task. I did not consider these facts:
- Xenforo 2 is coming sometime in the not too distant future and the addons will need recoding. Some of their functionality will certainly be made redundant by new features in XF2. Others will need rewriting and this is a fair amount of work.
- Since there will be no charge for the XF2 upgrade for existing (active) license holders, it’s unlikely that the Xenforo community will accept paying for addon upgrades. So all the work in creating the XF2 versions will be done for very little financial return. I speculate that this will be a problem for several addon coders.
- Xenforo addons are way too cheap. When it costs $1000 to code an addon, how do you justify selling and supporting it for $15? For professional coders and businesses, it doesn’t make for a particularly attractive financial proposition.
- Supporting these popular addons could be a lot of work and would most likely require more commitment than an amateur (by which I mean someone with a full time job who is coding the addons in their spare time) could give (which is often the reason why coders eventually retire from the Xenforo coding scene).
I chose @Xon to take over these addons who has committed to supporting them and advancing them to Xenforo 2 (feature redundancy not withstanding).
License holders will be able to claim their licenses using a small extension addon to Chris Deeming’s Products addon which Chris is in the process of producing.
So I want to apologise to everyone who has been waiting for support or sales of Daniel’s addons for the delay in organising this.
Trending Content, Prefix Essentials, Tag Essentials and Conversation Monitor are available to purchase now from https://www.m2n.co.uk/community/products/. I will support these on Xenforo.
Xon will make his own announcement about the remainder of Daniel’s addons.
Thank you.