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XF 1.4 Clarifying how permissions work

Discussion in 'XenForo Questions and Support' started by Lone Wolf, May 22, 2015.

  1. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    I've always found permissions somewhat perplexing and I think that's because I end up overcomplicating them. I want to clarify how they work XenForo.

    There is an option called inherit. I understand that forums will 'inherit' from nodes. I also believe that nodes 'inherit' from...

    ACP --> Users --> Usergroup Permissions

    So are the permissions that set in Users --> Usergroup permissions the 'Master Permissions' and they are inherited by everything automatically unless I specifically change the permissions of an individual node, forum or page?
  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  3. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    Ok I read those but my board's permissions dont seem to be following those rules....

    User X is added to the banned users usergroup (not banned via the ban function). He should still have access to an appeals forum under the Contact Us Node.

    Usergroup Permissions for view node (Not Set)

    Node Permissions for Contact Us (Allow)

    Forums Permissions for Appeals Forums (Allow)

    User X gets following error... You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.

    So I Analyze permissions and get the following...

    Global Permission Values
    Banned Users: Not Set (No)

    Content Permission Values
    Contact Us - Banned Users: Allow

    Final Value (Content): Yes

    So even the analyze agrees with me that this should be allow but I get an error. I've tried logging in as the test user and using test permissions as the test user. Nothing works.
  4. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    Any idea why I'm getting the contradiction above?
  5. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Does the user have access to every node above the target node in the tree? You can never access a child node if you can't access the parent.
    Lone Wolf likes this.
  6. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    The parent node is contact us and then the child (forum) is appeals. The user has access to both. But the user does not have access to any other node or forum.

    Now I'm wondering if setting 'view node' to 'not set' in user permissions makes all nodes invisible regardless of permission?
  7. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    Ok this was the issue. In usergroup permissions. I set 'view' to 'not set' and there is no equivalent to 'view' in nodes or forums so you cant set anything to 'allow' to override 'view' on certain forums/nodes.

    That was the cause. Thanks @Mike and @Brogan
  8. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Do you mean the main 'View' permission?

    If so, that is for the entire board.
  9. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Well-Known Member

    Yep. I didn't realise.

    I just assumed it had a counterpart in the node/forum permissions. Maybe it should be separated from the list the same way 'view node' is everywhere else. That would draw attention to it.

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