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Choosing Hosting

#1
Very much confused.

For Black Friday A2 hosting offers 52% off. so I can buy a linux vps unmanaged for $5/month atleast for the first year.
But i am new to linux vps environment. They don't give cp, only root access. So I need to learn to use my VPS Linux to make it secure.

Intially , i was planning to buy VB and host in URL JET starting from shared hosting.

Still urljet is the best bet because of their service, but their shared hosting itself 25/month.

or the last chance

i can start with blue host shared hosting which is damn cheap. when the my forum grows i can move to URLJET VPS

Will shared hosting will maintain the session and keep the user logged in.

Confused, pls suggest me an idea.
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#4
People ask this question a lot. And with so many providers out there, it's more of a question of what is right for you. Because there really is no "perfect, one size fits all" type of provider. Even though that maybe what everyone hopes to find.

What I can tell you is a list of providers to avoid (technically, it's just 1 provider, but many names)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group

And here is a 3 part article as to why
http://www.digitalfaq.com/editorials/websites-blogs/hostgator-alternatives-eig-pt1.htm

Then you may wish to checkout http://www.WebHostingTalk.com for a good provider :)
 
#5
If you aren't comfortable with managing your own server, you should go for a decent shared host or a managed service.
I can learn to manage it from tutorials and hope somebody helps here specifically for xenforo when i ask.

Will shared hosting will keep the session and maintain the user loggedin state.

BTW , how xenforo maintains the user logged in state - cookies, session, tables?
 
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Slavik

XenForo moderator
Staff member
#6
I can learn to manage it from tutorials and hope somebody helps here specifically for xenforo when i ask.

Will shared hosting will keep the session and maintain the user loggedin state.

BTW , how xenforo maintains the user logged in state - cookies, session, tables?
Well if you want to learn, there are plenty here who will help :)

In fact I have a guide going on here:

http://xenforo.com/community/resour...tos-openlitespeed-percona-with-pictures.1844/
http://xenforo.com/community/resour...tos-openlitespeed-percona-with-pictures.2258/

While part 3 is a little bit off, the first 2 parts should give you a nice starting point I think.
 
#7
Well if you want to learn, there are plenty here who will help :)

In fact I have a guide going on here:

http://xenforo.com/community/resour...tos-openlitespeed-percona-with-pictures.1844/
http://xenforo.com/community/resour...tos-openlitespeed-percona-with-pictures.2258/

While part 3 is a little bit off, the first 2 parts should give you a nice starting point I think.
Thanks for tutorial links

BTW , how xenforo maintains the user logged in state - cookies, session, tables?
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#9
I can learn to manage it from tutorials and hope somebody helps here specifically for xenforo when i ask.

Will shared hosting will keep the session and maintain the user loggedin state.

BTW , how xenforo maintains the user logged in state - cookies, session, tables?
If you're looking to learn how to manage your first VPS Server or Dedicated Server, I would suggest Debain (or Ubuntu).

There is even a 1 part guide (because it's that easy) that shows you step by step instructions on how to do exactly that.

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/debian-server-setup.952/

And directly out of the box without even having to tweak it; it will use fewer resources than many of the alternatives out there.
 

Tracy Perry

Well-known member
#10
If you're looking to learn how to manage your first VPS Server or Dedicated Server, I would suggest Debain (or Ubuntu).

There is even a 1 part guide (because it's that easy) that shows you step by step instructions on how to do exactly that.

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/debian-server-setup.952/

And directly out of the box without even having to tweak it; it will use fewer resources than many of the alternatives out there.
And one VERY important step that @Adam Howard left out of his guide is to do an
aptitude install fail2ban
then to go into /etc/fail2ban and cp jail.conf jail.local and edit it.
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#11
And one VERY important step that @Adam Howard left out of his guide is to do an
aptitude install fail2ban
then to go into /etc/fail2ban and cp jail.conf jail.local and edit it.
I actually suggest and recommend it in the thread, so I didn't forget it, but left it out of the guide.

While I personally recommend using fail2ban, a lot of people complain of having issues with it. Others claim it is out of date. And finally often fail2bad configurations need to be edited for your own personal needs (and those vary widely).
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#12
I actually suggest and recommend it in the thread, so I didn't forget it, but left it out of the guide.

While I personally recommend using fail2ban, a lot of people complain of having issues with it. Others claim it is out of date. And finally often fail2bad configurations need to be edited for your own personal needs (and those vary widely).
You can however learn a lot about fail2ban here

http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban
 

Tracy Perry

Well-known member
#13
I actually suggest and recommend it in the thread, so I didn't forget it, but left it out of the guide.

While I personally recommend using fail2ban, a lot of people complain of having issues with it. Others claim it is out of date. And finally often fail2bad configurations need to be edited for your own personal needs (and those vary widely).
I've had very good luck with it. It IS dependent upon you setting anything other than the default up correctly and you MUST have the ability for it to read the log files.

Code:
2013-11-19 03:25:02,952 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 200.217.64.234
2013-11-19 03:59:04,319 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Ban 182.72.98.138
2013-11-19 04:15:02,447 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Ban 79.175.236.12
2013-11-19 04:42:54,421 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Ban 114.46.212.187
2013-11-19 06:27:05,587 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 211.141.113.237
2013-11-19 11:40:21,527 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 83.146.81.34
2013-11-19 15:25:03,376 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 200.217.64.234
2013-11-19 18:27:06,091 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 211.141.113.237
2013-11-19 20:39:04,621 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Unban 182.72.98.138
2013-11-19 20:55:02,745 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Unban 79.175.236.12
2013-11-19 20:55:23,429 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 189.3.236.34
2013-11-19 21:22:54,716 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Unban 114.46.212.187
2013-11-19 21:57:18,621 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Ban 81.169.166.236
2013-11-19 23:40:21,947 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 83.146.81.34
2013-11-20 08:55:23,833 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 189.3.236.34
2013-11-20 15:09:56,709 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 93.125.31.163
2013-11-20 21:57:19,431 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Unban 81.169.166.236
2013-11-21 00:36:00,587 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 176.31.107.136
2013-11-21 03:09:57,364 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 93.125.31.163
2013-11-21 03:55:41,552 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 195.154.15.71
2013-11-21 12:36:01,209 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 176.31.107.136
2013-11-21 15:55:42,466 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 195.154.15.71
2013-11-22 05:32:00,525 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 78.100.48.74
2013-11-22 06:36:55,916 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Ban 31.13.193.111
2013-11-22 06:47:21,657 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Ban 41.140.253.194
2013-11-22 17:32:01,268 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 78.100.48.74
2013-11-22 23:16:56,611 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Unban 31.13.193.111
2013-11-22 23:27:22,362 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [postfix] Unban 41.140.253.194
2013-11-23 00:04:59,019 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 201.168.207.106
2013-11-23 04:20:55,051 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Ban 192.96.206.197
2013-11-23 07:30:05,394 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Ban 154.44.190.122
2013-11-23 12:04:59,503 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Unban 201.168.207.106
2013-11-23 12:09:06,926 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Ban 76.76.9.19
2013-11-23 22:20:24,420 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Ban 106.186.112.160
2013-11-23 23:39:23,944 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 220.181.82.213
2013-11-24 04:20:55,891 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [w00tw00t-sayapple] Unban 192.96.206.197
 
#14
Thanks for the recommendation people.

"XenForo uses cookies and sessions."

That is what i am concerned with shared hosting. Most of the times the session will be lost. So i was thinking of cheap vps from a2 hosting ( they are good in their service too),, hmm but i have to spend time to learn manage vps now.

May be today i will try in my vps learning Debian or CentOS. Unfortunately the guides posted here i can't view because i did not buy xenforo. I want to buy hosting first to utilize black friday offer

thanks
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#15
Thanks for the recommendation people.

"XenForo uses cookies and sessions."

That is what i am concerned with shared hosting. Most of the times the session will be lost. So i was thinking of cheap vps from a2 hosting ( they are good in their service too),, hmm but i have to spend time to learn manage vps now.

May be today i will try in my vps learning Debian or CentOS. Unfortunately the guides posted here i can't view because i did not buy xenforo. I want to buy hosting first to utilize black friday offer

thanks
There is an add-on that will keep your members logged in virtually forever (unless they log out). I just visited a site that I helped installed almost last month (2 1/2 weeks ago) and I was still logged in.

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/stay-logged-in-checked-by-default-xenforo-1-2-x.2004/

I use shared hosting myself for our file server and I'm still logged in as well
http://www.SociallyUncensored.eu/forums/
 
#16
There is an add-on that will keep your members logged in virtually forever (unless they log out). I just visited a site that I helped installed almost last month (2 1/2 weeks ago) and I was still logged in.

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/stay-logged-in-checked-by-default-xenforo-1-2-x.2004/

I use shared hosting myself for our file server and I'm still logged in as well
http://www.SociallyUncensored.eu/forums/
I was about to post a question before reading your post. Will shared hosting environment sustain user logged in state?

What is the name of the add on let me see it in my admin demo. is it free/
Thanks for your post.
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#18
I was about to post a question before reading your post. Will shared hosting environment sustain user logged in state?

What is the name of the add on let me see it in my admin demo. is it free/
Thanks for your post.
I have linked you the add-on in my post. It is free so it will not cost you anything extra.

Yes, shared hosting has no issue keeping people logged in. You need only visit my site if you wish to see an example of that.

If you need help installing or configuring anything, once you have purchased XenForo, send me a PM (private message) and I will be happy to help :)
 
#19
I have linked you the add-on in my post. It is free so it will not cost you anything extra.

Yes, shared hosting has no issue keeping people logged in. You need only visit my site if you wish to see an example of that.

If you need help installing or configuring anything, once you have purchased XenForo, send me a PM (private message) and I will be happy to help :)
Adam where is your site hosted, loads very fast