Absurd...so anyway...XenForo is turning away customers with reliance on paypal, software is overpriced in the first place but then they make it impossible for thoes who dont like paypal... Lastly, i would like to point out that IP board, VB, and Xenforo ALL have the model of constant updating of the software to make people keep buying....it is a trap that you get into every time you fall for it.