Best way to migrate from IPB

[Konon]

Hi, we are still on IPB 3.4 and I'm looking for an advice what is the best way to migrate to XF. Particulary we are waiting for XF 3, but could start the migration process earlier. We need to save as much forum data as possible.

Do we need to find a dev with a custom importer script for a complete migration or the standart XF importer is enough?

What data will be lost in any case due to incompatibilities?

Which way is better in terms of saving data:
IPB 3 => IPS 4 => XF 2
or
IPB 3 => XF 1.5 => XF 2
?

Thanks

 

[hellreturn]

I use both Xenforo and IPS and they both have different things to love. Just remember when you buy a license, you are buying in to not just the current software but the entire ecosystem: the company support, the community support, third party development, and of course future updates.
So even if you dream about v3, switching to Xenforo today will make your dream into reality some day

100%. But it's not easy to convert IPS to XF because XF doesn't support IPS File converter. It's actually major pitfall that XF team is not supporting it.

 

[MySiteGuy]

100%. But it's not easy to convert IPS to XF because XF doesn't support IPS File converter. It's actually major pitfall that XF team is not supporting it.

There is a third party solution for this, to import IPS File into XF Resource Manager. See my signature.

 

[Opus X]

There is a third party solution for this, to import IPS File into XF Resource Manager. See my signature.

so another we do not support it so go outside to pay extra feature set.
you would think that since they already offer a resource manager they would also offer an import function.
i guess they do not offer importing invision gallery either and want you to go pay someone else to do that.
i have slowly started to see what i was told but did not believe.
but what do i know.

edit:
and this would apply to any developer who offers a product with similar features.
if invision does not do this, then that is not right.
you offer an equivalent product you should import it.

 

[MySiteGuy]

so another we do not support it so go outside to pay extra feature set.
you would think that since they already offer a resource manager they would also offer an import function.

The Xenforo Resource Manager does not import from Invision Files because *it is not the same type of product. Resource Manager can be used as a makeshift downloads manager, as well as an article system, but it is really neither and more like something in between, with a rating system thrown in as well.

Plus, Invision Files is not widely used, so it probably doesn't make sense for Xenforo to spend resources developing this. Over the years I've handled many Invision imports, and few of them used Files.

i guess they do not offer importing invision gallery either and want you to go pay someone else to do that.

Your guess is incorrect. The Xenforo Media Gallery add-on imports from several sources, including Invision Gallery. And this makes sense since galleries are popular

i have slowly started to see what i was told but did not believe.
but what do i know.

It appears you're working on the principle of contempt prior to investigation.

edit:
and this would apply to any developer who offers a product with similar features,.
if invision does not do this, then that is not right.
you offer an equivalent product you should import it.

Even very large companies (like Microsoft) don't do this. When they choose to import data, companies tend to import the most popular features from the most popular software when it makes sense to spend their resources coding it.

Invision is the same way, not fully supporting all features available for all the software they import from.

*(I assume this is Xenforo's reasoning)

 

[Opus X]

Plus, Invision Files is not widely used, so it probably doesn't make sense for Xenforo to spend resources developing this. Over the years I've handled many Invision imports, and few of them used Files.

good reason.
resources are resources.
i am sure any competent developer can deal with issues.
you advertise a paid solution so that is apparent that it can be done.
the question is why is it not done in the core importer.

Your guess is incorrect. The Xenforo Media Gallery add-on imports from several sources, including Invision Gallery. And this makes sense since galleries are popu

since have not looked at moving from invision i had not looked closely.
but nice to know that they do attempt at importing from other offerings but seem to not be able to for other equal products.

It appears you're working on the principle of contempt prior to investigation.

or maybe i have started to see how dependent it is on outside providers?

When they choose to import data, companies tend to import the most popular features from the most popular software when it makes sense to spend their resources coding it.

uh-huh.
not.
if you know your competitors offer an equal feature business sense says to offer an import of it to yours.
but excuse makers will make excuses.

 

[Forsaken]

good reason.
resources are resources.
i am sure any competent developer can deal with issues.
you advertise a paid solution so that is apparent that it can be done.
the question is why is it not done in the core importer.


since have not looked at moving from invision i had not looked closely.
but nice to know that they do attempt at importing from other offerings but seem to not be able to for other equal products.



or maybe i have started to see how dependent it is on outside providers?


uh-huh.
not.
if you know your competitors offer an equal feature business sense says to offer an import of it to yours.
but excuse makers will make excuses.

Yes, argue with a person who has more experience than almost anyone else with offering import services from probably the most platforms.

 

[Konon]

So even if you dream about v3, switching to Xenforo today will make your dream into reality some day

I think we will make our final decision when we see XF 2.4. Just found that IPS also removed ajax functions from self-hosted v5. Unfortunately self-hosted IPS v5 became less powerful than both IPB v3 and IPS v4 in basic things. Their new front-end theme is very good though. I think we will move to XF but the front-end UI should be improved. That is why we are waiting for XF 3 (for so long).

 

[Suzanne O]

I think we will make our final decision when we see XF 2.4. Just found that IPS also removed ajax functions from self-hosted v5. Unfortunately self-hosted IPS v5 became less powerful than both IPB v3 and IPS v4 in basic things. Their new front-end theme is very good though. I think we will move to XF but the front-end UI should be improved. That is why we are waiting for XF 3 (for so long).

Move now then you can see what it's going to be like.

 

[G@rgamel]

I think we will make our final decision when we see XF 2.4. Just found that IPS also removed ajax functions from self-hosted v5. Unfortunately self-hosted IPS v5 became less powerful than both IPB v3 and IPS v4 in basic things. Their new front-end theme is very good though. I think we will move to XF but the front-end UI should be improved. That is why we are waiting for XF 3 (for so long).

I switched from Invision to Xenforo last weekend. Today I started the “test migration”... and I'm happy. There are a few things to keep in mind, Invision has a slightly different feel... e.g. the forum permissions, group permissions etc. But I'm happy with the decision to switch systems. Xen has sooo many more features in the basic license. You can wait for 2.4, 2.5, etc. Are you currently dissatisfied? Try Xen... As an admin, you will have to get used to it. But it is definitely not worse.

 

[Konon]

Just found that IPS also removed ajax functions from self-hosted v5.

They are bringing it back, this is good.

Xen has sooo many more features in the basic license. You can wait for 2.4, 2.5, etc. Are you currently dissatisfied? Try Xen...

As 5.0 is already triable and if it's problems are somehow solvable, then I'd upgrade to IPS because upgrading is faster, simpler. If they are not solvable then switching to XF. Currently I'm trying to find the solutions to IPS 5, talking with devs there.

 

[G@rgamel]

As 5.0 is already triable and if it's problems are somehow solvable, then I'd upgrade to IPS because upgrading is faster, simpler. If they are not solvable then switching to XF. Currently I'm trying to find the solutions to IPS 5, talking with devs there.

Yes... i've tested v5 much time. Since beginning for the Alpha test...
But now, i think my time have come to switch one of my communities. v5 is not bad, but at this time it's not ready to use it productive for my community. I'm missing some features... The time will show us how v5 will grow. For now, i've decided to move.