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Add-on Auctioning addon - preferred method of payment?

Discussion in 'Resource and Add-on Discussions' started by Naatan, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Naatan

    Naatan Well-Known Member

    Hi, I have an upcoming addon called XenAuction, which as the name implies adds auctioning functionality to XenForo.

    Currently the addon is in it's final stage but has no payment integration. I plan to integrate it with paypal but am trying to figure out the best way of implementing this. I'd like to know from people interested in using this addon what method of payment they would prefer?

    Here are a couple of options:
    • A - Completely manual, allow users to configure a message that details payment instructions - the auctioning addon does not facilitate the payment process itself

      Problems with this method:
      • The addon has no way of tracking completion status, users will need to manually update their auctions.
      • Users will need to come up with their own payment solutions, which might be preferable by some but for many this can be a deal breaker.
      • Forums can't charge a percentage of the earnings.
      • You can end up with buyers that don't actually make their final payment.
    • B - Pre-charged "wallet" system, users will need to charge their account before they are able to place bids or buyouts. When they loose an auction the funds will be refunded to their forum wallet account.

      Problems with his method:
      • Users can end up with funds on their account without having a way of spending it
        on something they want.

    • C - Process payment upon winning an auction

      Problems with this method:
      • You can end up with buyers that don't actually make their final payment.
    Option B can be more viable if a method was implemented where users could "withdraw" funds.

    Option C can be more viable if a rating system was implemented where you have buyer and seller rating and sellers were able to set a minimum seller rating.

    Personally I'm in favour of option B right now, but it's also the most complicated to implement.

    What are your opinions? (feel free to add an option of your own ;)).
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  2. ArnyVee

    ArnyVee Well-Known Member

    Option B where a member (aka 'buyer') funds their account with "x" amount of "credit" (points mod, wallet points, etc) and credit/points are purchased via PayPal.
    yavuz and Naatan like this.
  3. Dinh Thanh

    Dinh Thanh Well-Known Member

    Can we have all methods? Admin can choose which method can be used on his forum.
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  4. JPMiddleton

    JPMiddleton New Member

    I would have to go with option b - pre-payment is ideal.
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  5. gordy

    gordy Well-Known Member

    I'm for that too. Choice is king.
  6. Naatan

    Naatan Well-Known Member

    Of course giving choice is never a bad idea. But I'm only a one man army and there are only so many hours in the day ;) What I'm after right now is what everyones preferred choice is. That's not to say I won't add the other options at a later date, it just means it probably won't be in the first version.
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  7. Itworx4me

    Itworx4me Well-Known Member

    Option C
  8. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Option C

    Look... eBay kid of has this market cornered .... If you want to make even a footnote ... Pick something other than paypal. I know dozens of people who love or like myself, who did love eBay, but none of us use it or can ever use it... Why? Paypal.

    Doesn't matter what alternative you pick. As long as paypal isn't the default standard... You'll have a valid argument for using your modification or service, over that of eBay.
  9. Naatan

    Naatan Well-Known Member

    Other gateways are to follow, that's not what this topic is about though.
  10. dumindu89

    dumindu89 New Member

    Option C

    This option already using in digital point forums successfully with vBulletin. If I think about myself, I don't like a wallet system because the problem that you have mentioned in the first post.

    I suggest to add a buyer/seller feedback system with this add on and hope this add on will have to the auction system or Buy it now system like in DP.
    Adam Howard likes this.
  11. Sumo

    Sumo Active Member

    I would personally go with option c.
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  12. Sylar

    Sylar Well-Known Member

    I really like the sound of this...would you be able to add another option to where you can have the admin define his/her own payment system? For instance, 'points'. Jimmy bids 32 'points' on 'Item A' and wins, Jimmy gets a PM from the seller(automated) saying he won, and they should now configure the transaction.
    Would be for an out-of-forum transaction.
    If that makes any sense :p
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  13. Mr. Goodie2Shoes

    Mr. Goodie2Shoes Well-Known Member

    Option C?
    You can enable something like this:
    'If the winner does not make the payment within a specified time, the runner up be the winner?'
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  14. Naatan

    Naatan Well-Known Member

    I'm not a fan of this, when you have lost an auction as a bidder you perceive the money you invested as returned and you can choose to invest it in another auction. To then receive your old auction again which you lost would just be bothersome.
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  15. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    If you do a good job of "payment systems" .. can you enable it such that other xenforo developers can buy it off you ?
  16. Naatan

    Naatan Well-Known Member

    That's the plan :)
  17. artspbseo

    artspbseo Member

    Overall, I think that XenForo auctioning addon is really good idea - I've been looking for such thing for a long time.
    Maybe, it will make some sense if you should take into consideration commercial mod from Vbcover - modmaker studio (Auction mod for VB).
    About option B - its higly deamanded feature, because of own banking and payment system. However, potentially complicated in setting-up and designing.
    Degrinch likes this.
  18. kwaken

    kwaken Member

    @Naatan - Did work on this..? almost been 1year.. :D
  19. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    source: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/auction-bidding-system-for-xenforo.34464/#post-645841

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