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Lack of Interest "At least X characters" shouldn't count [QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Discussion in 'Closed Suggestions' started by Vincent, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    If you post a reply just saying [QUOTE][/QUOTE], the reply is posted. It will show an empty reply box :p

    I suggest that you don't count BBCode into the "At least X characters" function :D

    Note: this also happens with [PLAIN][B][U][I] etc.


    Test the bug here: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/hello.13200/
     
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  2. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    This is more of a suggestion.
     
  3. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    A blank post looks more like a bug to me mate? :S
     
  4. Robbo

    Robbo Well-Known Member

  5. Robbo

    Robbo Well-Known Member

    I say bug^
     
  6. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    I'm quoting nothing :D

    This is definately a bug... Because this posts content looks like this:
    Code:
    [quote="Robbo, post: 172539"][/quote]
    I'm quoting nothing :D
    
    This is definately a bug... Because this posts content looks like this:
     
  7. yoghurtfarmer

    yoghurtfarmer Well-Known Member

    I sometimes use empty quotes to trigger alerts without thread clutter (ie: when my post is directly after the one I'm quoting).
     
  8. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    Well, you could also put something in that quote ;) It doesn't need to be empty.
     
  9. Robbo

    Robbo Well-Known Member

    Using a bug doesn't make it any less of a bug.
     
  10. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Calling designed behaviour a bug doesn't make it a bug.
     
  11. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    This is about not counting BB code as characters, which in general is a different approach and potentially changes some other things.

    There are other ways to create a blank post, such as via color or a broken image (well, or a valid transparent one...). As per usual, the fact that something is possible doesn't always mean that there has to be 100% technical solutions for it. This usually comes up with censoring, but the concept is the same here.
     
  12. Robbo

    Robbo Well-Known Member

    Generally from what I have seen in other forums there is a simple (well obviously not that simple) method which will trim and remove all bbcode then check if the string is empty. Would add a little more to validation but I don't really see the problem. I also see it as an extremely minor bug so don't really care anyway.
     
  13. yoghurtfarmer

    yoghurtfarmer Well-Known Member

    Then it would still be clutter. A pet peeve of mine is having to scroll through quote boxes when the quoted post is immediately above.

    Seeing as it's a minor issue for some while other people actually use it to their benefit, I'd hardly call it a bug.
     
  14. Brett Peters

    Brett Peters Well-Known Member

  15. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    Well yeah, I got no problems with the white post.
    But this just seems so f***** up :/
     
  16. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry guys, but I still think this is a bug :D
     
  17. Floris

    Floris Guest

    I agree with Mike, they didn't code it otherwise, this is behaving as designed, ergo: not a bug.

    That said, I think if you strip out empty bbcode upon submit, that you have 0 characters -- which should error.

    Opening a thread pressing left icon and pressing submit .. should error (in my opinion) that the thread you are about to submit is empty.

    I think this is not a bug report, but a suggestion to strip out empty bbcode, and after doing that, if so at 0 characters the 'empty' error should appear.
     
  18. dutchbb

    dutchbb Well-Known Member

    I can understand why it may or may not be regarded as a bug, depending on how you look at it. Either way, I do believe the suggestion to ignore (opened and closed) BBCode when checking for characters is valid. It makes the most sense.
     
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  19. cmpe

    cmpe Active Member

     
  20. cmpe

    cmpe Active Member

    (Hope it's open to bump a closed suggestion.)

    I wouldn't call this a bug at all but I'm not sure why this is "as designed". What is the use case of allowing users to post nothing but a quote?

    The reason why I searched for this suggestion is because I've seen quite a few instances where someone replies with a quote but they didn't add anything so all everyone sees is a quote. My previous reply to this thread (above) is exactly what it looks like. I don't see the point of allowing such posts.

    Now what I think is happening is that maybe the user is clicking on reply then clicking "Post Reply" by mistake. What's the best way to prevent this from happening? It's happened at least a dozen times so far on my site. I'm 100% sure it's user error (and maybe some of them are doing it intentionally to get their post count up) but I think this is a use case that should be prevented.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2013

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