gmaister22
Active member
The reason i still haven't moved to xenForo is that you guys do not have an IP.Content replacement...
Are there any plans for it?
Are there any plans for it?
As xF fanbois, do we get the right to know Kier's new location? I try to zoom in on to people's houses in my free time - using Google Street View.
As xF fanbois, do we get the right to know Kier's new location? I try to zoom in on to people's houses in my free time - using Google Street View.
I do not want CMS in core IMO. I hate CMS of vBulletin. I do not to see them in core again in XF.
We decided to just style XenPorta to something that suits us, and we plan on using XenPorta until an official (if any official) xF CMS add-on is released, yes, XenPorta is not a CMS just a portal but hey it works for us currently! We just need to highlight the article type of content. If you wish to have a look at what we've done with XenPorta - http://orojackson.com/ feel free to
With my site, we tried using multiple CMS options including Drupal and Wordpress, but nothing could match the awesomeness of XenForo, XenForo beat our CMS in SEO as well as everything else, users preferred the forum more than reading cms articles.
We decided to just style XenPorta to something that suits us, and we plan on using XenPorta until an official (if any official) xF CMS add-on is released, yes, XenPorta is not a CMS just a portal but hey it works for us currently! We just need to highlight the article type of content. If you wish to have a look at what we've done with XenPorta - http://orojackson.com/ feel free to
And I'm sure, if and when xF comes out with its own official CMS add-on like the RM, it's going to leave every other forum software in dust. Because from what I know of XenForo, they are always innovative with everything, and they'll be setting the standard that every other forum software has to follow. May it be IPB, may it be vB, xF is the leader in innovation in today's forum market.
That's why I always said here that if they decide to create it, they should see it as a completely new product and do a lot of research on how to build a CMS the way it should be and not some quick add-on thing for the forum.Well I hate CMS. I hate CMS of vBulletin too. I wish XenForo will always be the original forum without CMS. Forums must not lose their structural ideology.
I don't understand all these folks saying XenForo team should drop everything and make a CMS.
Question #1: Why do people need such tight integration between the CMS and Forum?
A CMS is typically authored, edited, and managed by just a handful of people who are a bit more technically savvy. 99.7% of forum users only need enough permissions to post Comments. I've seen forum administrators that open up Blogs to everyone and think the content will just write itself. It doesn't work that way. It's one thing to post sarcastic or witty comments. It's quite another to write a cohesive narrative worth reading.
That 0.3% of content authors who will be dedicated enough to post well-written articles on a regular basis are also smart enough to handle an extra login and password. I just don't think it's particularly crucial to have exact user permissions and parity between the forum and CMS. If your site will have a Shopping Cart, then during checkout, your shopping cart system could automagically create a Forum account for the user.
Question #2: If XenForo came out with a CMS 2 years from now, how many themes and plugins would there be?
Even if Mike and Kier did this and worked on nothing but a CMS for 2 years, and it was the best ever, it still wouldn't be Wordpress, Drupal, or Joomla. Those products have a dozen developers each with tens of thousands of man hours over 10 years EACH. And more importantly, tens of thousands of Themes and thousands of Plugins have been written for each.
Everyone seems to want XenForo to get into the game console business, but don't care that there won't be any games.
I may be wrong, but you seem to confuse an article system with a CMS. vbCMS was no true CMS but an article system.I don't understand all these folks saying XenForo team should drop everything and make a CMS.
Question #1: Why do people need such tight integration between the CMS and Forum?
A CMS is typically authored, edited, and managed by just a handful of people who are a bit more technically savvy. 99.7% of forum users only need enough permissions to post Comments. I've seen forum administrators that open up Blogs to everyone and think the content will just write itself. It doesn't work that way. It's one thing to post sarcastic or witty comments. It's quite another to write a cohesive narrative worth reading.
That 0.3% of content authors who will be dedicated enough to post well-written articles on a regular basis are also smart enough to handle an extra login and password. I just don't think it's particularly crucial to have exact user permissions and parity between the forum and CMS. If your site will have a Shopping Cart, then during checkout, your shopping cart system could automagically create a Forum account for the user.
Question #2: If XenForo came out with a CMS 2 years from now, how many themes and plugins would there be?
Even if Mike and Kier did this and worked on nothing but a CMS for 2 years, and it was the best ever, it still wouldn't be Wordpress, Drupal, or Joomla. Those products have a dozen developers each with tens of thousands of man hours over 10 years EACH. And more importantly, tens of thousands of Themes and thousands of Plugins have been written for each.
Everyone seems to want XenForo to get into the game console business, but don't care that there won't be any games.
Personally....
I think Wordpress should just come out with a really awesome forum. They spend all their time developing bbpress and it sucks! Doesn't even work with certain themes and it isn't even fun to use.
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