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Allow moderators to ban users

Discussion in 'Add-on Releases [Archive]' started by Rigel Kentaurus, Mar 14, 2011.

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  1. Rigel Kentaurus

    Rigel Kentaurus Well-Known Member

  2. tmb

    tmb Active Member

    Thanks man. Was wondering why they couldn't in the core anyhow.
     
  3. Deebs

    Deebs Well-Known Member

    If you could give the moderators a timelimit or permanent ban then this mod would be invaluable.
     
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  4. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    Agreed... if this could use the XF ability that is given to admins in the backend, ie. the ability to use time limited... that would be awesome. Basically, bring the XF backend functionality for banning to the frontend, and allow it to be shared across usergroups.
     
  5. Rigel Kentaurus

    Rigel Kentaurus Well-Known Member

    Shared across usergroups is possible, right ? Just give the permission to more than one usergroup ...

    I started simple, and I am still willing to add more features. The permanente ban sounds like something needed. I think I will add an option to control that, though, so not everyone can give a permanente ban but the usergroups one specify.

    I am also working in an option to lift the ban.

    And.. does it annoy anyone that the moderator can ban himself? (not that it already happened)
     
  6. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    Mods can already permanent ban, its everything under that they cannot do... by using the spam function, they can ban permanently without touching the users content, etc...

    What they can't do, is only what an admin can currently do via the ACP, being time limited which gives options from XF by default, ie. 1 day, 2 days, 1 week, 1 month, etc... these already exist in XF, but only to admins, as there is no mod control panel. That function, IMHO, needs to come to the frontend for both admins and mods.
     
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  7. dutchbb

    dutchbb Well-Known Member

    Moderators can't currently ban or edit members in XF? Strange. That feature is essential for most forums, should have been in 1.0.0.
     
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  8. dieketzer

    dieketzer Well-Known Member

    i think the greatest would be if the moderator could move people into a pre-defined usergroup.
    i like using a usergroup that allows one to browse the board, yet not post/reply for example.
     
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  9. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    Are both true yes? (I am not currently using XF on a production board). If so, then I hope it get's added soon indeed, since my Moderators do both on our current vB 3.8 platform.
     
  10. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    If you trust your moderators enough to let them ban or edit users, make them administrators and allow them to manage users.
     
  11. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    And how much more admin functionality do they have access to then?
     
  12. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    If you just check the "Manage bans" option, the only additional items available are the cache rebuild, server error logs and test facebook integration (a bug related to Q&A CAPTCHA has already been fixed for anyone who tries it).

    Checking the "Edit users and moderators" option gives them access to the spam cleaner log and user related options.
     
  13. Rigel Kentaurus

    Rigel Kentaurus Well-Known Member

    Sure, if you trust them. And if you do trust them but don't want to run that risk? I want them to be able to ban users, not the access the admincp. Granted, there are some of them I would not care giving access, this is not extensible to all my moderators or the new ones. Also, some of us are more careful than the rest and have their admincp htpasswd protected and nobody should go near that, ever.

    What is all this talk about they "only" have access to the Rebuild Cache option? That is not an only, that is a "huge" only. Rebuild search index is there. That is so server intensive that someone can reduce my site to a crawl just by playing with it. Might as well be "only" the option to turn the forum off. Has this even been reported as a bug?

    So .. yeah, the current solution from XenForo is not enough not appropriate for my use case.
     
  14. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  15. tmb

    tmb Active Member

    Banning is definitely more a moderation task than administration task. Very frustrating design decision that I'm glad is being fixed by this mod.
     
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  16. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    I'm going to install this when the ability is there to choose the amount of time:)

    0 = Permanent
     
  17. dutchbb

    dutchbb Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that tip. It's not really about trust though, I've just decided not to have other admins and also to keep the ACP well locked and secure for anyone else but me. You never know if their PC is going to get hacked.
     
  18. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    I ask this question, because my moderators (on vBulletin 3.8) are in full charge of User Management. I certainly do not want them to be able to access anything else inside 'my' Admin Control Panel, as the feedback below also clearly indicate:

    So, since my Moderators are in full charge of User Management, I need them to be able to access all functionality they need to be able to perform their tasks. But without giving them access to stuff that they have no business with whatsoever (like cache rebuild, server error logs and test facebook integration...).
     
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  19. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    Moderators CAN ban members from the frontend, via the "spam" link. You change your spam settings so the link is always visible, not time cutoff, then if any member gets out of line, mods can ban them by clicking spam, ticking only the ban member link, hit ok. All their content remains, they are just banned, nothing else. They can then push that to an admin for unbanning if required.

    What is needed, is when you use that spam option, is that the built-in timed periods that are available to the admin in the ACP when banning, need to be bought into that spam option for banning. The functionality it seems already exists in XF, it just needs to be brought into the frontend spam feature by a developer.

    If you have to give your mods admin access, then what is the point of having mods in the first place?
     
  20. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    The ACP ban option has the time allocation via a dropdown calendar. Bring that into the spam popup when clicking the ban option, so it appears, problem solved all round.

    banned.JPG
     
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