vbresults
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No it isn’t.
XenForo Mobile | Android/iOS App [Paid] Beta Testing
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smallwheels
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1. did you bother to read the thread you are posting to? I guess not...
2. do you have any understanding what makes the price? obviously not.
3. did you realize that quite a number of people considered the price for this app between fair and cheap on this thread and did you think about why they came to this conclusion? obviously not.
4. How do you know that "most" run forums as a hobby?
5. Even if this was the case - how would this in any way connect to claim that the price would be "insane"?
6. Even if many could not afford it - is there a law that there should only add ons be allowed that everybody can afford? So basically only free addons? Addons that target professional or commercial users are not allowed?
Out of curiosity:
• What would you be willing to pay for a native App for iOS and Android with ongoing support including setup, onboarding, basic customizations and continuous further development?
• What exactly would you expect to get for the price you are willing to pay?
• Based on what criteria do you judge if the price is justified or not?
PS: You are not obliged to buy the add on but are always free to develop a native mobile app for XF yourself with the same or better features and offer it cheaply. If you are unable to do so you could pay someone that is qualified and sell the outcome here cheaply. What would you charge for that?
You right, I didn’t bother to read the thread because is no interest to me, maybe if I were interested , $100 would be a lot.
I am a hobbyist admin. Having an app is not something I would be looking at it.
it’s a good initiative definitely, but you’ll struggle to get admins to subscribe.
What I’ve learned being an admin for some years, is buying premium addons or features, could be a problem when the developer decides to vanish or not provide support for the addon due to lots of factors.
If I were making of money from forums, I would be paying someone to make an app for my forum specifically, but won’t be buying someone’s else app. Because everyone’s needs is different.
You meant the price ? I like the idea of having an app. But there will be other costs involved apart from $100. I believe you still have to pay to keep your app on AppStore.
smallwheels
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Would be interesting to see and I highly doubt that you woud do that sucessfully. Cost would be anywhere between maybe ~7.500$ and 80.000$, depending on how it is done and what your needs are - and this is just the initial developing cost. If you want much fancyness for very special need, fully hand crafted it could possibly even become more expensive. Ongoing maintenance, support and further development comes on top of that.
Hard to believe someone who finds 100$/month insane would be willing to pay a sum like that.
Basically your statement makes me wonder why you would not go for a fully from scratch custom developed forum software but instead buy XenForo - it is the same pattern: A common basis with possiblities to individualize. So possibly XenForo would not be good enough for your (virtual) individual needs, following your argumentation...
An Apple developer account needed for that is about 100$/year. Google is free I think. If not it is possibly in the same ballpark. Does not matter anyway as for pracitcal reasons I'd rather assume that the app will be submitted via the account of the developer as anything else would bring no benefit but a lot of useless complexity.
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I doubt would be that high. Are you building a Tesla here or what ?
I actually been approached by a developer that wanted to offer an app solution for free, which I have agreed, similar to Reddit.
Anyway, I don’t want to spam the OP thread.
That’s my opinion.
Not a lot, until it gets unsupported, and not working anymore.
Still, with PWA , many don’t need an app.
smallwheels
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On what foundation do you assume that? Seems you don't have much experience with custom software development. And it seems I am not the only one assuming cost in the ballpark I mentioned, rather I was on the more conservative side:
Sure, the best developers do work for free and still deliver perfect results in a timely manner and amazing support including updates for the next decades. Who want's to paid for work in today's world? This approach is so yesterday. I assume, you refuse getting paid by your employer as well and work for the honor only...
If we had the official XF API back then I imagine things would have been a lot different.
Ain't argue here with a troll mate. Good luck.Sure, the best developers do work for free and still deliver perfect results in a timely manner and amazing support including updates for the next decades. Who want's to paid for work in today's world? This approach is so yesterday. I assume, you refuse getting paid by your employer as well and work for the honor only...
Mendalla
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Back on the app subject, Circle offers an app for their communities (my favourite singer uses Circle for her fan community). The app and site both have their eccentricities, just different ones. Notifications work better on the app, some other things work better in a browser. So I don't think even a native XF app is realistically going to be perfect for every use case.
In fact, because Xenforo is highly decentralized with its self-hosting and add-on economy, an app almost needs to be tailored to each site. So a framework for building an app (which the API provides to some degree, I guess) makes more sense than an full native app for Xenforo.
As far as the cost, I have no business case for spending money on an app but if I did, I would have to build the case, see what it will generate in terms of revenue through advertising, memberships, sales generated, etc., and then decide what I can afford. Maybe $100/mth works for some business cases, esp. if one has paid memberships and includes the app as one of the perks for paid members to drive more people on to paying. But it is probably too high for some others, esp. purely ad-driven models. I report to the director of finance at work and have for 26 years so I know how to sell things like this to TPTB. Basically, if you can show it will generate business growth, you can sell pretty much anything at a given price point.
In fact, because Xenforo is highly decentralized with its self-hosting and add-on economy, an app almost needs to be tailored to each site. So a framework for building an app (which the API provides to some degree, I guess) makes more sense than an full native app for Xenforo.
As far as the cost, I have no business case for spending money on an app but if I did, I would have to build the case, see what it will generate in terms of revenue through advertising, memberships, sales generated, etc., and then decide what I can afford. Maybe $100/mth works for some business cases, esp. if one has paid memberships and includes the app as one of the perks for paid members to drive more people on to paying. But it is probably too high for some others, esp. purely ad-driven models. I report to the director of finance at work and have for 26 years so I know how to sell things like this to TPTB. Basically, if you can show it will generate business growth, you can sell pretty much anything at a given price point.
