Sador
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I guess you didn't bother to actually click on the respective links to see what was actually written?
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I guess you didn't bother to actually click on the respective links to see what was actually written?
I guess you didn't bother to actually click on the respective links to see what was actually written?
I read it. And just like the 'source' that claimed you WOULD have to pay them, its not from Micrsoft. Poly are however a well recognised and respected player in the market.
Carlos
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They're not exactly..... GameSpot, GiantBomb, or IGN. You may think that Polygon is "recognized" and "respected," but they're not. In fact, they've been getting some (opinion: a lot of) hate since launch.
Forsaken
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And they've been (mostly) unbiased, and haven't been wrong as much as other places.
And honestly... I'd trust Polygon over GameSpot, GiantBomb and IGN. I'll go to IGN for reviews, but rarely will I go for actual gaming news. And the others aren't even on the radar for news.
Sage Knight
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For me Gamespot is the best when it comes to reviews, they've given really harsh reviews even to their sponsors. At first I used to hate them for it, especially Kevin's reviews but now it's different. IGN is too lax at times mostly because they report more than just games.
Carlos
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That's your opinion. But what I mean, is that most people trust GameSpot and IGN for news. GiantBomb is geared towards the mature crowd in the gaming community.
To me, Polygon is like, "a nobody." The first time I've heard of them is 6 months ago when they launched their new site. GamesBeat is more reliable then Poly, in my humble opinion. Mostly because VentureBeat owns the domain and employs some heavy hitters.
Carlos
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You can blame that on "there's nothing new right now." Until PS4, and Xbox One has been revealed. Now I'm excited for gaming again after that PS4 reveal, AND the Xbox One reveal. I don't like parts of Xbox One like the whole DRM/Always On debacle, but I like how they presented the features. However, I'm not sure that Microsoft will deliver what it promises with Xbox One. Mostly because it's built on 3 operating system(s), and one of them is Windows 8, the other is rumored to be Windows [something here], and the other one is built with Xbox One in mind (like Xbox 360/Xbox Live). Honestly, there's a lot on the line for Microsoft with Xbox One. Cable companies that entered into an agreement with Microsoft with Xbox 360 (and now Xbox One) will have HIGH, extremely high expectations from the Xbox One console.
PlayStation 4 seems to be doing just about everything right. I only wish that most of the features that were presented during Xbox One reveal, were part of the PS4 features. But Sony hasn't designed a Kinect competitor. I can live without the touch (hand commands, however you want to call them) technology, and the voice commands... I only wish they were part of the system, tho.
Adam Howard
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This is how Microsoft puts it....
So let’s take a look at both of these....
The first one basically says that on the Xbox One, the game publisher gets to decide where and if you can trade in your games.
The second one says that game publishers can also decide whether or not a game can be given to your friends but you can only lend them to folks that have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and you can only give it once.
So to me this is the worst scenario possible.
I’ve paid my hard earned money for something and someone else gets to decide how and when I can relieve myself of it? Since when has that ever been something that folks would go for? It would be one thing if we were talking digital but they are talking about disc people, physical disc.
So let’s say you buy X game and then decide it sucks, if the publisher doesn’t allow trade-in, resell, or giving, then you are pretty much stuck with a crappy game
- Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.
- Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
So let’s take a look at both of these....
The first one basically says that on the Xbox One, the game publisher gets to decide where and if you can trade in your games.
The second one says that game publishers can also decide whether or not a game can be given to your friends but you can only lend them to folks that have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and you can only give it once.
So to me this is the worst scenario possible.
I’ve paid my hard earned money for something and someone else gets to decide how and when I can relieve myself of it? Since when has that ever been something that folks would go for? It would be one thing if we were talking digital but they are talking about disc people, physical disc.
So let’s say you buy X game and then decide it sucks, if the publisher doesn’t allow trade-in, resell, or giving, then you are pretty much stuck with a crappy game
Arantor
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Frankly this is the least of my concerns (since Steam does much the same in terms of transfers)... I'd actually be more worried about the camera and mic in Kinect 2 that are apparently sensitive enough to identify heartbeats... if they're that sensitive, things like identifying the number of people in the room (and licensing content appropriately) are almost here. The mic that has been suggested as 'always listening' is even more frightening...
Anyone who hasn't read 1984 should do so, and anyone who thinks that we're not on the edge of that nightmare needs to smell the coffee.
Anyone who hasn't read 1984 should do so, and anyone who thinks that we're not on the edge of that nightmare needs to smell the coffee.
Shelley
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This is how Microsoft puts it....
- Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.
- Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
So let’s take a look at both of these....
The first one basically says that on the Xbox One, the game publisher gets to decide where and if you can trade in your games.
The second one says that game publishers can also decide whether or not a game can be given to your friends but you can only lend them to folks that have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and you can only give it once.
So to me this is the worst scenario possible.
I’ve paid my hard earned money for something and someone else gets to decide how and when I can relieve myself of it? Since when has that ever been something that folks would go for? It would be one thing if we were talking digital but they are talking about disc people, physical disc.
So let’s say you buy X game and then decide it sucks, if the publisher doesn’t allow trade-in, resell, or giving, then you are pretty much stuck with a crappy game
An xboxone will never enter my home. Disgusting the lengths companies dictate to us after we've purchase a game that we cannot do basic things like going around friends homes and lending them or playing stuff there. That's to put it mildly. Is this actually confirmed then Adam? Or is this still up in the air?
Adam Howard
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Adam Howard
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^^^^ As you have quoted as saying yourself ^^^^
Guess what happens if xBox One can't call home for more than X day and you try to play a game?
An Internet Connection is required.
I guess you could argue that you "own it" in the since that it will turn on and off. You'll be able to navigate through the menus. And any music or movie you pop in will of course play.
But the actual gaming function, you don't own. That function is "leased" as a service of xBox Live.
Now hopefully someone within Microsoft will change this before its released.
They didn't change it...
You MUST have an Internet connection. If you are offline for more than 24 hours, you can not play games.
I knew about this months ago and even said so here (see quote above).... People didn't listen.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/connected
