World energy crisis solved?

Finding a way to harness the waste would be great, but the problem with all these things is cost.
When we originally put the current system in place... Cost was an issue then as well. Anytime you change something on a large scale, cost will always be an issue. And after a while the cost will go down.

That's the only time resource cost the most. In the beginning and at the end of the supply, which we're seeing now.
 
Yeah, but the governments make too much money on taxing oil to want to research other forms of energy production fully. If governments were to fully commit to nuclear power for instance, I bet we'd see a major increase in the efficiency of nuclear power stations and the standard set of processes used within them and for storing/disposing of the waste products.
While I am sure that there is plenty of lobbyists who represent interests against furthering the science behind nuclear power...the govt making money on the taxation of petroleum products could easily be traded off by increasing taxes to nuclear power plants which opt not to use a modern reactor to reduce waste volume and half-life .

Nuclear power plants in the US are for the most part owned and maintained privately with inspections conducted by the govt.

The problem is there is no incentive for a private business to make use of a reactor that uses waste when that company is already setup to make power with older style reactors.

In light of that, the control over the price of oil has almost nothing to do with this issue directly.

The main issue is that current reactors are at best like 10% percent efficient, these new reactors can take that 90% waste byproduct and convert 96% of that into usable energy which produces a waste product that has a radioactive life of about 100 years or 10 times less time than the radioactive life of the waste they used as a fuel source.

This solves two problems, energy without using more source radioactive materials, and conversion of radioactive waste into an energy source and making a byproduct that is dangerous for .1% of the time of the original waste it sourced as fuel.

By the govt. simply providing incentive for the private sector in the business of producing nuclear power to use reactors which are more efficient and use waste as a fuel, a process can begin where companies start using these style of reactors.

We should move away from safely storing these waste products for the long term and allow for a method that changes the designation of these materials as waste into materials we can call fuel.

One incentive is to provide these waste materials that we have stored to companies utilizing theses new reactors at an incredibly low cost or free (since they are currently costing us to store them for 1000+ years anyways) and in the end...companies using these reactors get fuel to convert to power to sell (almost all profit) which in less than a year covers the overhead of installing one reactor at their facility.

Once enough companies have these reactors there can begin a supply line where what was once waste being shipped to a secure storage facility, will become fuel being used by companies who can utilize it. By charging companies more money to have the waste stored that it costs them to transport that waste to facilities who can use it...you almost guarantee that you only have to store about 1% of the waste normally produced and stored each year.

If one of the new reactors costs 1.5 billion and produces power equivalent to trillions of dollars a year out of nothing more than waste as a fuel source...I don't see the overhead of the new reactor being a problem whatsoever.
 
I can also see the first tanker truck, car, etc. that catches on fire in the middle of the road. They generate quite a bit of heat and I've seen concrete exploding before.
In cases like that you re-patch the road. I would imagine the same applies.... Drop in a new "frame" and you're done.
 
Yeah, but the governments make too much money on taxing oil to want to research other forms of energy production fully. If governments were to fully commit to nuclear power for instance, I bet we'd see a major increase in the efficiency of nuclear power stations and the standard set of processes used within them and for storing/disposing of the waste products.

I often wonder that about Solar panels and the like
Wasn't there some conspiracy that oil companies bought all the patents for solar panels or the research for them, to stifle their potential?
 
There is far far far! to much money in selling the earths resources for them to do this >.> shame really because something like this would be good for the earth but than again we can't do anything good can we...
 
There is far far far! to much money in selling the earths resources for them to do this >.> shame really because something like this would be good for the earth but than again we can't do anything good can we...
I'm not convinced this would be good for the Earth. The resources/pollution involved in creating the electronics in these glass roads may well exceed asphalt. It's a trap people fall into, pushing the pollution further away from the final product doesn't necessarily reduce the total produced.
 
I'm not convinced this would be good for the Earth. The resources/pollution involved in creating the electronics in these glass roads may well exceed asphalt. It's a trap people fall into, pushing the pollution further away from the final product doesn't necessarily reduce the total produced.

Yeah they cant come cheap, you've also got the gold, copper and other metals embedded in the circuit boards, the plastic for the diodes, likely chemical coatings, the amount of energy needed to create the glass in such a special way, etc.

IF they could ever make it so that it costs even just 5% less to make them (and when I say cost I'm talking cost of earthly resources, not monetary value) then it'd be worth it. This would need however a lot of work with getting the usage of each material as low as possible, with tiny circuit boards, less reliance on custom machinery to make them, etc. I like the idea of using recycled junk to make the plastic areas, that's a damn good idea. It's done in light quantities (mainly for benches, bins, fences, etc) but really needs to be widely adopted.
 
Impressive. One question though. How would this work during a snow storm and with snow removal?

That is the first thing that came to my mind. Here in Nova Scotia we have lots of snow plow and we use a lot of road salt. I wonder how this would stand up to the salt and the heavy steel blades of a snow plow.

James
 
While I am sure that there is plenty of lobbyists who represent interests against furthering the science behind nuclear power...the govt making money on the taxation of petroleum products could easily be traded off by increasing taxes to nuclear power plants which opt not to use a modern reactor to reduce waste volume and half-life .

Nuclear power plants in the US are for the most part owned and maintained privately with inspections conducted by the govt.

The problem is there is no incentive for a private business to make use of a reactor that uses waste when that company is already setup to make power with older style reactors.

In light of that, the control over the price of oil has almost nothing to do with this issue directly.

The main issue is that current reactors are at best like 10% percent efficient, these new reactors can take that 90% waste byproduct and convert 96% of that into usable energy which produces a waste product that has a radioactive life of about 100 years or 1000 times less time than the radioactive life of the waste they used as a fuel source.

This solves two problems, energy without using more source radioactive materials, and conversion of radioactive waste into an energy source and making a byproduct that is dangerous for .1% of the time of the original waste it sourced as fuel.

By the govt. simply providing incentive for the private sector in the business of producing nuclear power to use reactors which are more efficient and use waste as a fuel, a process can begin where companies start using these style of reactors.

We should move away from safely storing these waste products for the long term and allow for a method that changes the designation of these materials as waste into materials we can call fuel.

One incentive is to provide these waste materials that we have stored to companies utilizing theses new reactors at an incredibly low cost or free (since they are currently costing us to store them for 1000+ years anyways) and in the end...companies using these reactors get fuel to convert to power to sell (almost all profit) which in less than a year covers the overhead of installing one reactor at their facility.

Once enough companies have these reactors there can begin a supply line where what was once waste being shipped to a secure storage facility, will become fuel being used by companies who can utilize it. By charging companies more money to have the waste stored that it costs them to transport that waste to facilities who can use it...you almost guarantee that you only have to store about 1% of the waste normally produced and stored each year.

If one of the new reactors costs 1.5 billion and produces power equivalent to trillions of dollars a year out of nothing more than waste as a fuel source...I don't see the overhead of the new reactor being a problem whatsoever.

To me, the incentive seems to be that they can produce energy for a longer period of time out of the product they already have (if they have a plant already) so the cost are much lower. And with it using the product for a longer period of time you would be lowering the disposal fees. That right there would cover the cost of the upgrade over time.

James
 
Yeah they cant come cheap, you've also got the gold, copper and other metals embedded in the circuit boards, the plastic for the diodes, likely chemical coatings, the amount of energy needed to create the glass in such a special way, etc.

IF they could ever make it so that it costs even just 5% less to make them (and when I say cost I'm talking cost of earthly resources, not monetary value) then it'd be worth it. This would need however a lot of work with getting the usage of each material as low as possible, with tiny circuit boards, less reliance on custom machinery to make them, etc. I like the idea of using recycled junk to make the plastic areas, that's a damn good idea. It's done in light quantities (mainly for benches, bins, fences, etc) but really needs to be widely adopted.

Using garbage in construction is a great idea. It would cut down on the amount going to land fills. This would extend the life of land fills as well, which would mean they wouldn't have to look in your back yard for a new land fill site as soon.

I have been wondering about garbage lately. There must has to be a lot of creative uses for different types of garbage. We are recycling a lot but there must be more that can be done with other waste that is still going to the land fills.

James
 
To me, the incentive seems to be that they can produce energy for a longer period of time out of the product they already have (if they have a plant already) so the cost are much lower. And with it using the product for a longer period of time you would be lowering the disposal fees. That right there would cover the cost of the upgrade over time.

James
That is true, if you are set up for both you can take raw material , make energy, and use the waste to make more energy. I was just going a step further and also thinking of a way to make use all of waste material we are already storing already and have accumulated over the years.
 
That is true, if you are set up for both you can take raw material , make energy, and use the waste to make more energy. I was just going a step further and also thinking of a way to make use all of waste material we are already storing already and have accumulated over the years.

That is a great idea for a new site. An old site would still have product to use, then they would move on to old stores. I think it would be best to make sure the used product is cheaper to get then the raw product. Using that would solve a lot of problems.

James
 
That is a great idea for a new site. An old site would still have product to use, then they would move on to old stores. I think it would be best to make sure the used product is cheaper to get then the raw product. Using that would solve a lot of problems.

James
Absolutely and that is what I am talking about...that is how you get sites to pick up on this. Give early bidders nice rates as an incentive to take the risk of fitting for a new process. One you have that line established it doesn't really matter if others adopt...once these companies see the benefit and profits they make they will be more interested in processing the stores of waste from the various places that they are buried now and less about processing raw materials. Once other companies notice the potential for their business while running these to process their own waste...they will probably elect to process it and profit from it themselves rather than pay for it to be stored safely.
 
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