Add-on Why is there no decent blog addon for xenforo?

I never understood the desire to add a blog or CMS to the core of a forum. It seems what people really want is a CMS with a forum element. Either way, the secondary, or add-on element is always going to be less than the same element as a standalone thing. That cruel, heartless mistress history has shown us that time and time again.

Most people don't shop for a car that can also haul full sheets of plywood and a thousand pounds of reclaimed bricks because a truck is better suited for those things. Something that does both will always be a compromise.

Before you say, "But mjp, you wrongheaded boiled owl, it doesn't have to be a compromise!" you're right, it doesn't. Though I'd just say again, it always has been. So why keep turning down that same road when you know what's at the end of it?

In related news, I tied my left shoe way too tightly this morning, but so far I haven't mustered up the courage to reach down and loosen it, because then it will be too loose and I'll spend the rest of the day trying to equalize the pressure between my two shoes and that can only lead to disappointment and frustration.
 
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Eaglebunker said:
I do not see necessary in such a thing in forums. Because I think, blogs are bad and unnecessary in forums. If blogs need to in forums, Google would do it but no, never. I think so. Everything you add to your forums, there are two things you should ask first; Will your users use it? I like to think of this as blog question. Will your users use it? Some forums, yes but most forums no, never. Does it take away from your forums. In generally, everything you add to your website, you add because you want to draw people to your website. I don't think so, blog or social groups do not do this.
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What a complete load of crap. Blogs and social groups have proven their worth many times over. If something isn't used then it's either built bad, implemented bad or badly promoted.
 
Rob said:
What a complete load of crap. Blogs and social groups have proven their worth many times over. If something isn't used then it's either built bad, implemented bad or badly promoted.
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Well, if someone want to use blog then, they can create more blogspot or wordpress blog. If someone want to use social groups, they can create more groups at Facebook. Note that forums always should remain in the same ideology. I said, everything you add to your forums.
 
Eagle said:
Well, if someone want to use blog then, they can create more blogspot or wordpress blog. If someone want to use social groups, they can create more groups at Facebook. Note that forums always should remain in the same ideology. I said, everything you add to your forums.
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Also a complete load of crap. By that very ideology, the resource manager would not exist.

For your info, I utilised both blogs and social groups under vBulletin and they were VERY busy areas. I can't wait to reinstate the functionality if and when it gets written to a high standard.
 
The fact that we have no software that is as good as blogspot, wordpress or facebook groups, does not mean that something as good as that or even better can't be written. if we get quality software for such functionality then this can do wonders for communities. After all we already have members. All we need to do is present them with compelling functionality and they will utilize it heavily.
If Reddit forum can build their success through crappy social groups functions, then we can surely make social groups successful if we get good functionality.
 
Rob said:
Also a complete load of crap. By that very ideology, the resource manager would not exist. For your info, I utilised both blogs and social groups under vBulletin and they were VERY busy areas. I can't wait to reinstate the functionality if and when it gets written to a high standard.
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The XenForo Resource Manager comparison with blog or groups? Sounds like that. Well, The XenForo Resource Manager is a different an add-on from blog or social groups. Forums aren't a blog. Forums aren't a social group. Forums aren't a wordpress etc. XenForo should not include blog or social groups. However if it will be, then always should be a custom add-on, like Elastic Search. If you want them, you can download them as a custom add-on. I don't want them as a default feature. Now remember to you said "Also a complete load of crap" Well, and also a complete PILE of crap. Again you said, "For your info, I utilised both blogs and social groups under vBulletin and they were VERY busy areas." Well, that is not my business or anyone. "Very busy areas" but everybody is not, not at all. Please don't talk about all people in "generally". Because all people are not the same. Everyone is different. You have to understand this. So, If you still don't understand, there's nothing to do for that.
 
I dont think anyone is suggesting that blog or social groups should be part of the core package. Its addon functionality. Just like the resource manager is.
 
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mjp said:
I never understood the desire to add a blog or CMS to the core of a forum.
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I agree. WordPress does blogs. XenForo does forums. Let the specialists do what they specialize in. WP has been around for over a decade. A "lite" blog might make a good add-on, but I'd rather XF's developers stick to what they do best.
 
Eagle said:
The XenForo Resource Manager comparison with blog or groups? Sounds like that. Well, The XenForo Resource Manager is a different an add-on from blog or social groups. Forums aren't a blog. Forums aren't a social group. Forums aren't a wordpress etc. XenForo should not include blog or social groups. However if it will be, then always should be a custom add-on, like Elastic Search. If you want them, you can download them as a custom add-on. I don't want them as a default feature. Now remember to you said "Also a complete load of crap" Well, and also a complete PILE of crap. Again you said, "For your info, I utilised both blogs and social groups under vBulletin and they were VERY busy areas." Well, that is not my business or anyone. "Very busy areas" but everybody is not, not at all. Please don't talk about all people in "generally". Because all people are not the same. Everyone is different. You have to understand this. So, If you still don't understand, there's nothing to do for that.
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yeah, like the resource manager is for everyone, very general, right? I never mentioned it being in the core, that would be stupid.
 
It depends on your niche, one of my forums is about travel and blogs fit in well with it. To have it integral with the forum so we can coordinate permissions and profiles etc is nice. As basic as it was, plenty of people used the VB Blog.
 
+1 on a Blog needed.

I am on the home stretch of developing a forum platform for social and business networking. Social and business is mixing together. Premium members shall be able to make their own groups and blogs to promote their interests and business. I have made a social group add-on purchase and I am quite happy with it. Now I desperately need a BLOG add-on. I agree that this shall stay an "add-on" and not shifting to core. But the lack of a dedicated blog developer for XenForo is a real setback of my future plans. I would pay up to 100,- Euros to have a great blog add-on that is maintained to stay compatible with future XF releases. Just putting together the Text Editor, XenGallery as the media content interface and a Calendar functionality for scheduling, maybe a "featured blog" container as well as smart permission sets of who can create, own, comment to a blog . That's it. I would do it myself. But well...
 
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A reliable blog-addon is needed.
@Barbossa Do you still use normal threads and posts by customizing forum_view, thread_view pages and postbits for a blog replacement look?
 
TBOC said:
+1 on a Blog needed.

I am on the home stretch of developing a forum platform for social and business networking. Social and business is mixing together. Premium members shall be able to make their own groups and blogs to promote their interests and business. I have made a social group add-on purchase and I am quite happy with it. Now I desperately need a BLOG add-on. I agree that this shall stay an "add-on" and not shifting to core. But the lack of a dedicated blog developer for XenForo is a real setback of my future plans. I would pay up to 100,- Euros to have a great blog add-on that is maintained to stay compatible with future XF releases. Just putting together the Text Editor, XenGallery as the media content interface and a Calendar functionality for scheduling, maybe a "featured blog" container as well as smart permission sets of who can create, own, comment to a blog . That's it. I would do it myself. But well...
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Just FYI I am currently developing the Blog, it is not going anywhere
There has not been any update recently because, well, I need time to code the update
 
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