XF 2.0 White Space ?

webbouk · Jun 9, 2018

I was always of the impression that 'white space' in rendered html caused the page to take longer to load as the user's browser reads through the lines.

Just viewing the source code of this page shows in excess of 2,000 lines and yet there is a lot of white space between the lines., which seems typical of all the xenForo pages when rendered

Does white space still have a part to play in page loading speeds or are modern browsers capable of skipping through it?
And if it does, is it possible to optimise pages when downloaded to remove it?

Paul B · Jun 10, 2018

Create two html pages with the same content but one with extra white space/lines and measure the time to load each one.

Hristo Avramov · Dec 6, 2019

Someone knows a mod to remove the whitespace?

dethfire · Dec 21, 2019

Whitespace still needs to be processed by the browser. I wish xenforo could collapse it. It would make page sizes smaller.

Jeremy P · Dec 22, 2019

I could be wrong, but I imagine the minuscule amount of time you would save client-side would be offset by the extra time required to collapse white-space server-side, and any net gain would be negligible at best.

dethfire · Dec 24, 2019

Why the huge gaps exist should be investigated. Also it feels like templates/styles are super heavy in general. I have some threads pages that are 8000+ lines of code. I was looking at bestbuy source code and they are around 500 on many pages. Even with threads with 1-2 posts, the framework is so heavy that only a couple dozen of lines are unique to that page.

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Jeremy P · Dec 24, 2019

dethfire said:
Why the huge gaps exist should be investigated.

It's because of template syntax (like conditionals), and it's pretty much to be expected.

dethfire said:
I was looking at bestbuy source code and they are around 500 on many pages.

I'm impressed they managed to make their website feel so clunky in only 500 lines. Comparatively, XF feels a lot lighter, at least to me. In fact, if I pretty-print the Best Buy source, it comes in around 21k lines (69kb) (whereas XF comes in at around 5k lines/24kb). If XF compressed the output as heavily as they did, I imagine it'd be far smaller, but it wouldn't really be any faster.

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