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ibaker

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and I also think that the developers that are left are not even up with the complexity of v2. For example Luke F's "Post Ratings" addon has had 28 updates over 3.5 years from first release which has mostly just been keeping up with XF version changes compared to the 2 similar addons by other well known developers that are up to 30 to 40 updates over just a few months fixing bugs. In v1 we have seen many addon developers hurt many sites with their releases then disappearing and now leaving a big hole for users to upgrade to v2.

Over the last few days I have been evaluating IPB and it is a far more polished and comprehensive solution with built in Clubs, Articles, Media, Downloads, eCommerce Shop plus a brilliant looking Classifieds addon plus others. However for a person to move away from XF to IPB it will take a massive learning curve, about the same as what it will take a "Power User" (i.e. non developer that does more than just change the logo and colours) to stay with XF and have to learn the XF specific templates. This means that from the old days of just knowing advanced html you can have many different software solutions from different suppliers in one web site to create a great overalol solution but now you have to learn the coding used by the forums, the coding used by the ecom shop, the coding used by the classifieds solution etc etc etc all making it very hard.

XF v1 was very simple to use and modify to create a great site but now I personally believe v2 is far more complex however I personally are going to give v2 a go even for this old and tired near 60yo ex developer now a Power User and hope some decent comprehensive well supported big addons to XF come along
 
There are at least 3300 addons available for XF1 and only about 500 available for XF2, so there are not XF2 alternatives out there for every addon no matter who the developer is. ;)
So...
i’d rather upgrade to the latest version.
Add the addons that are available and wait for the others to be created.
 
and I also think that the developers that are left are not even up with the complexity of v2. For example Luke F's "Post Ratings" addon has had 28 updates over 3.5 years from first release which has mostly just been keeping up with XF version changes compared to the 2 similar addons by other well known developers that are up to 30 to 40 updates over just a few months fixing bugs. In v1 we have seen many addon developers hurt many sites with their releases then disappearing and now leaving a big hole for users to upgrade to v2.

Over the last few days I have been evaluating IPB and it is a far more polished and comprehensive solution with built in Clubs, Articles, Media, Downloads, eCommerce Shop plus a brilliant looking Classifieds addon plus others. However for a person to move away from XF to IPB it will take a massive learning curve, about the same as what it will take a "Power User" (i.e. non developer that does more than just change the logo and colours) to stay with XF and have to learn the XF specific templates. This means that from the old days of just knowing advanced html you can have many different software solutions from different suppliers in one web site to create a great overalol solution but now you have to learn the coding used by the forums, the coding used by the ecom shop, the coding used by the classifieds solution etc etc etc all making it very hard.

XF v1 was very simple to use and modify to create a great site but now I personally believe v2 is far more complex however I personally are going to give v2 a go even for this old and tired near 60yo ex developer now a Power User and hope some decent comprehensive well supported big addons to XF come along
Actually, as a developer, I've been diving into V2 and it's a lot cleaner, easier and simpler to work with (albiet not as well documented) than V1. You may find that other developers, such as myself will fill the gap.
 

ibaker

Well-known member
Thanks Sam but that is the whole point. I use to do development many years ago but it is all past me now and I just consider myself a power user. I could do a lot more with XF1 than I can do now with XFv2 as it is more complicated for a power user than what v1 is
 
That is you and your site, other forum owners might feel differently. A site with 400,000 members and 8,000,000 posts running a addon would need it updated before upgrading.
Still, the features that are in the upgrades are awesome.
I still use @ThemeHouse addons, they’re grouse with the themes.
With other addons i either will try them out or not bother.
I got @Brogan helping me out with the upgrade today.
 
Aye, the features are are good, but for someone that has thousands of dollars invested in their theme and addons it just is not reasonable to update right away. For a small site it is ok.
I always wait until every single addon for the website is available. Back when I was using IPS 3.4.x, and moved to 4.0, the bridge addon between my site and forums were supposed to be updated very shortly. It took over a year to come, and the addon costs $200+ more than it used to. I should have kept IPS 3.4. and not upgraded lol (but then the vulnerabilities I'd have...).
Happy with XenForo and the bridge we use which is significantly cheaper.
 

resonansER

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I'm deeply convinced that Kier, Mike and Chris with Brogan MUST create a user-friendly, functional and light (in-code) content management system (CMS) for xf2! It is a fact! :)
Now there is only one cms, and it is not perfect (in my opinion). :eek:
But I know that xenforo developers can create such cms! Please, do it. (y)(y)(y)

Friends, if you agree with me, post your messages in that thred.;)
 
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