I find it annoying that in order to see what account upgrades forums that offer them .... erm ... offer one has to be a registered user of that forum first. Very irritating! If you are running a forum that offers account upgrades to paid members, what do you actually offer them? Back in vB days I was able to offer more storage for PMs. The XF conversations ruined that one. How about links and images in sigs back in vB days? Ahh ..., cant' do that in XF. Yes, there are color coded user names or badges, but those aren't useful, they are merely epeen things feeding the ego of those who paid. Sure, the ability to show off and elevate oneself above the forum crowd is appealing to some but I'd imagine most users would want some actual tangible benefit for paying up. The one obvious benefit would be to not display ads for paid members, but what if you don't have ads in the first place which is common for forums which are just starting out. Looking through the group permissions I just don't see anything that stands out as an option for account upgrades. More members in conversations? Whoop-dee-dooo! Who cares. As you can probably tell the search for any kind of meaningful benefit for upgraded members has been rather frustrating. EDIT: To lighten the mood of this post, after I slept on it, let me ask the question users would ask when it comes to whether or not to upgrade: what 1S THE 1NSENT1VE Likes for everyone who remembers, without cheating, where that question was originally from!