XF 1.2 Users active in admin CP stats

[karll]

If I show the "users active" for the daily stats, it seems to be around 50 - 60 users.
If I show the "users active" for the weekly stats, it seems to be around 400 - 500 users.
If I show the "users active" for the monthly stats, it seems to be around 1500 - 2000 users.

I would have thought "users active" means the number of unique users who were active (i.e. logged in) in the time period selected. But we certainly don't have 400-500 unique users in a week, or 1500-2000 unique users in a month. Unless "users" include non-member visitors? (But then I would have expected more in the daily stats as we have 50-60 logged-in members who visit every day.)

Can someone help me explain these stats? Is it accumulated somehow? Is it a bug?

 

[Paul B]

The weekly and monthly totals are taken from the daily figures.

Check the weekly total for week 44 and then add up the daily totals for 28 October - 3 November and they will match.

 

[karll]

Thank you, Brogan. Right, so it's showing the accumulated daily totals.

Intuitively though, I would have thought "users active" in the weekly and monthly stats should show the number of unique users for each week and month, respectively.

 

[Jeremy]

The information stored is a daily number, and IIRC, doesn't store what users counted for each day. So with the current data, it's impossible for it to function the way you want without add-ons.

 

[Ark Royal]

What is a definition of an active user in the daily statistics?

 

[Jeremy]

Without looking at the code, its most likely those who've visited in the 24 hour time period.

 

[Ark Royal]

Do you think that would include guests and robots or just registered members?

 

[Jeremy]

I believe it's just registered members. I would have to check in the code to verify.

 

[Ark Royal]

Thanks Jeremy

 

[GreatG]

Hi everyone,

I try to find out what really means: "active users" in the daily statistic, but unfortunately, the definition given by Jeremy seems to be uncorrect.
Here
a picture:


As you can see:
there are days, where was 0 active users, but mor hundred of posts in my forum...
So I'm really confused now....
Could someone explain what exactly means: "active user"?
Any idea?

Thanks in advance,

 

[TPerry]

That baseline is zero. The next bar is 250, so if you had 10 persons online it would barely budge off that baseline (if you imagine 250 lines in between the two).

 

[karll]

That baseline is zero. The next bar is 250, so if you had 10 persons online it would barely budge off that baseline (if you imagine 250 lines in between the two).

10 users making more than 1250 posts on 3. May? Well, it's possible, but seems unlikely ....

 

[GreatG]

Hmm, I guess, I ow much more confused, than before...
To clear: I need to have at least 250 users active in order to display at least 1 online user? So it means: if I have for example 45 active user displayed in the stat, real I have 250+45?

Am I correct?

 

[TPerry]

10 users making more than 1250 posts on 3. May? Well, it's possible, but seems unlikely ....

I did not say it was 10 users... that was an example. Even 30 users would barely budge off that baseline.

 

[TPerry]

Hmm, I guess, I ow much more confused, than before...
To clear: I need to have at least 250 users active in order to display at least 1 online user? So it means: if I have for example 45 active user displayed in the stat, real I have 250+45?

Am I correct?

The graph flows up to the maximum # (the next 25, 50 etc)... so if one field you are monitoring has 2000 and the other 30, then the graph will show for the higher number.
Here is mine (and no, the site doesn't have but 3 active users).
If that number of posts was 500, then the users active band would appear to be on zero more than likely.

 

[karll]

I did not say it was 10 users... that was an example. Even 30 users would barely budge off that baseline.

I think we could easily see it if it were 30 users though. There is an easy way to find out: In the Admin CP, hover the mouse pointer over the graph. A pop-up then reveals the exact number at that date.

Maybe GreatG has set up some kind of automatic posting? (I think there is an add-on for that.) Or maybe he imported posts from another board? Just some ideas ....

 

[GreatG]

Hi karll,
thank you.
There is no automatic posts, no importing, nothing like this.
I have the numbers, they are different:
30. Apr 14:71
01. Mai 14:0
02. Mai 14:94
03. Mai 14:0
04. Mai 14:0
05. Mai 14:70
06. Mai 14:92
07. Mai 14:0
08. Mai 14:0
09. Mai 14:0
10. Mai 14:0
11. Mai 14:0
12. Mai 14:0
13. Mai 14:0
14. Mai 14:74
15. Mai 14:951
16. Mai 14:834
17. Mai 14:0
18. Mai 14:0
19. Mai 14:178
20. Mai 14:0
21. Mai 14:791
22. Mai 14:0
23. Mai 14:0
24. Mai 14:0
25. Mai 14:0

These are the exact numbers. Further ideas?

 

[TPerry]

Maybe GreatG has set up some kind of automatic posting? (I think there is an add-on for that.) Or maybe he imported posts from another board? Just some ideas ....

Actually, my month one doesn't really budge until it's around 20 (for 2000 posts).

And good point. Wonder if RSS feed imports count as a post?

 

[karll]

Hi karll,
thank you.
There is no automatic posts, no importing, nothing like this.
I have the numbers, they are different:
30. Apr 14:71
01. Mai 14:0
02. Mai 14:94
03. Mai 14:0
04. Mai 14:0
05. Mai 14:70
06. Mai 14:92
07. Mai 14:0
08. Mai 14:0
09. Mai 14:0
10. Mai 14:0
11. Mai 14:0
12. Mai 14:0
13. Mai 14:0
14. Mai 14:74
15. Mai 14:951
16. Mai 14:834
17. Mai 14:0
18. Mai 14:0
19. Mai 14:178
20. Mai 14:0
21. Mai 14:791
22. Mai 14:0
23. Mai 14:0
24. Mai 14:0
25. Mai 14:0

These are the exact numbers. Further ideas?

To me it seems like something is wrong, that the real number of users is not being recorded. Such spikes and 0s in user activity seems very strange and unusual.

I'd suggest submitting a support ticket from the Customers' area of this website. Then the XF people can look at it.

 

[GreatG]

It is strange and it seems, the same stuff happens also with the post numbers...
A question: is there any cron which have influence on the stats?