User Upgrades by Waindigo [Deleted]

[Jon W]

Jon W updated User Upgrades by Waindigo with a new update entry:

Version 1.6.1 released

Bug fixes:

• Fixes "Illegal string offset 'ip'" error. Note that this affects premium members only. If you have been affected by this error, you can resend your missing IPN messages from PayPal (see this tutorial).

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[Jon W]

Jon W updated User Upgrades by Waindigo with a new update entry:

Version 1.6.2 released

Bug fixes:

• Fixes bug that IP address not being stored in the transaction log correctly. (Premium users only)

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[Jon W]

Jon W updated User Upgrades by Waindigo with a new update entry:

Version 1.7.0 released

New features:

• Added option to "Allow automatic calculation of sales tax/VAT". With this option enabled, you will be able to set your sales tax/VAT rates in PayPal. See this guide. For compliance with the 2015 EU VAT regulations, check out this list of European Union VAT...

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[Liam W]

Surely any site that uses this would be classed as a commercial site?

If not, what is a commercial site by your definition?

Liam

 

[Jon W]

Surely any site that uses this would be classed as a commercial site?

If not, what is a commercial site by your definition?

Liam

I would imagine the vast majority are, yes.

There's a 255 page study that Creative Commons did on the definition here if you are interested:
http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/defining-noncommercial/Defining_Noncommercial_fullreport.pdf

I'm still not entirely clear, but if someone emails me with a good enough reason, I'm usually happy to let them use it for free. I guess a good reason in this case would be for a charity website or something like that, but that would be about it.

 

[Jon W]

Jon W updated User Upgrades by Waindigo with a new update entry:

Version 1.8.0 released

New features:

• Now you can create "PayPal IPN Rules". This applies rules to all transactions reported by PayPal to a separate IPN PHP script called payment_gateway.php. You can use this to catch all or some of your other non-XenForo transactions that go through PayPal and then link them with your user upgrades. This also works great for catching old user upgrades after upgrading from vBulletin etc.

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[Brent W]

Anyone using this with BD Pagegates?

 

[SatGuyScott]

Where do I go to create PayPal IPN Rules? I use to have vBulletin running in the root directory and just this week removed all my vBulletin stuff and now I am getting a message from paypal about my payment_gateway.php missing.

Thanks Jon!

 

[Jon W]

Anyone using this with BD Pagegates?

Probably won't work.

 

[Jon W]

Where do I go to create PayPal IPN Rules? I use to have vBulletin running in the root directory and just this week removed all my vBulletin stuff and now I am getting a message from paypal about my payment_gateway.php missing.

Thanks Jon!

In the Admin Control Panel under Users -> User Upgrades.

 

[Mr Lucky]

Is anyone using this to account for VAT to EU countries under the BVAT MOSS scheme?

 

[Jon W]

Is anyone using this to account for VAT to EU countries under the BVAT MOSS scheme?

I use it on waindigo.org. Also for Norwegian VAT.

 

[TJA]

File Health Check
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Suspect file attached.

 

[Jon W]

File Health Check
Potential Problems

library/Waindigo/Listener/TemplatePostRender.php
File does not contain expected contents.

Suspect file attached.

Nothing to worry about. You probably just have a very old Waindigo add-on installed somewhere.

 

[Stuart Wright]

@Jon W would it be difficult to moderate upgrades so we can refuse them for certain people?

 

[Jon W]

@Jon W would it be difficult to moderate upgrades so we can refuse them for certain people?

It is already possible to restrict them to certain user groups. Anything beyond this would be quite difficult as the user would have already paid before they could be added to the moderation queue. That being said, it could definitely be done that way if you wanted, but you would probably have to process the refund manually if it didn't pass through the moderation queue.

Potentialy, something like this could be used by a site to moderate all upgrades from inside the EU (excluding those in the country of origin). They could then be rejected and processed manually, which might avoid any VAT having to be paid on those upgrades. You would have to consult a tax professional as to whether that would actually be the case.

 

[Stuart Wright]

It is already possible to restrict them to certain user groups. Anything beyond this would be quite difficult as the user would have already paid before they could be added to the moderation queue. That being said, it could definitely be done that way if you wanted, but you would probably have to process the refund manually if it didn't pass through the moderation queue.

Potentialy, something like this could be used by a site to moderate all upgrades from inside the EU (excluding those in the country of origin). They could then be rejected and processed manually, which might avoid any VAT having to be paid on those upgrades. You would have to consult a tax professional as to whether that would actually be the case.

This isn't actually a VAT related question. We already pay VAT so I think we need a separate addon to deal with VAT in separate countries.
No, my question relates to preventing competitors and companies with a bad reputation from upgrading.
Would it maybe have to be a two stage process of a member first applying for the upgrade, and if they 'pass', we add them to a usergroup which has permission to perform the paid upgrade normally.

 

[Jon W]

This isn't actually a VAT related question. We already pay VAT so I think we need a separate addon to deal with VAT in separate countries.

This add-on can sort out your VAT commitments. There would still be the advantage that you could charge a flat VAT rate to everyone and have no more EU VAT MOSS returns to fill in. I just had to fill my first one in the other day -- is so ridiculous for the tiny amounts of VAT I have to pay for each EU country.

No, my question relates to preventing competitors and companies with a bad reputation from upgrading.
Would it maybe have to be a two stage process of a member first applying for the upgrade, and if they 'pass', we add them to a usergroup which has permission to perform the paid upgrade normally.

So my option would still stop that. In principal, I can't see anything wrong with taking their money and then not upgrading them until they have passed moderation if they are part of a certain user group.

The other option you have proposed sounds a lot like my Join User Group add-on. I guess you would just want to see that add-on more integrated with User Upgrades, so instead of not being able to see an upgrade at all, they would get a button to join an appropriate user group.

Both options are probably about the same amount of work.

The advantage of the first option might be that you might have even more information about a user after they have paid that can be used in your moderation decision, particularly if you use the option in this add-on to request address information as part of the transaction.

 

[Stuart Wright]

So your preferred suggested option is to process the upgrade but put their upgrade in the moderation queue, at which point admin either allow the upgrade or deny it and manually process a refund?

 

[Jon W]

So your preferred suggested option is to process the upgrade but put their upgrade in the moderation queue, at which point admin either allow the upgrade or deny it and manually process a refund?

Yes. My only caveat to that is that I think PayPal now charges to process refunds as they now no longer refund the fixed fee (20p). But if just one eligible person is not put off from purchasing an upgrade, then surely that is worth a few 20p's?